Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Fashion guru and Brit stalwart of the House of Dior has been shown the door. Shown the door at Dior! He has made some outrageous comments now for a period of time each getting more bizarre than the one before.
However as with previous fallen high flyers before him, in recent times anyway...high technology caught him out and cemented the case against him.
At first he denied any hint of anti-semitism but wow!! the mobile phone coverage as shown by The Sun newspaper yesterday on their website, made it onto all the TV news programmes and into all the newspapers. In the footage he is clearly shown to say that he loves Hitler and loves what Hitler did to the jews.
"I love Hitler!" says he to some Jewish people.
You and your ugly parents should be effing gassed and effing this that and the other...he went on.
Okay its his choice to say such things..but you cannot get away with it any more. You get fired at the very least and slip out of public adoration immediately.
This is PC in action but good PC ..we often deride it.
Last week you may have seen the story about the football fan in the video making crash gestures as his team geared up to play Man Utd...that guy was arrested. Galliano should be too...I think he was initially, but nothing much came of it. His outburst happened in Paris.
Quite clear...you cannot get away with saying what you like anymore, there are consequences.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That is not pc PaulB - the man is clearly an ignorant fool and would be a commercial liability to his company behaving in that manner. I would sack him for that, nothing to do with pc at all.
Nothing there for him to be arrested for though, he should be allowed to say such things if he wishes, it is a matter of free speech. Expressing that view just shows him up and as a result he deserves contempt as well as a 'commercial re-evaluation of his job'....
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I tend to agree with Barry W. It's not the first time Galliano has done this either. I wonder if it's for shock value? Interestingly enough some of the famous faces (models etc) said they would no longer work on Dior campaigns or runway shows if he wasn't removed. I wonder how many of them would have actually followed that through. I heard from an 'insider' that their last lipstick advertisement paid a well known actress mega mega ££££!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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from the footage i saw he just came across as a drunken buffoon, as he is famous then he has to be punished publicly.
dior had no choice in the matter.
Jan Higgins
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All I can say is, silly little man and I agree with the previous posts.
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Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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He clearly does not read his history, Hitler also had homosexuals gassed.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought that when he blurted out his rubbish, when you count in gypsies, trade unionists, communists and others, if adolf had got his way he would have had most of europe to hmself.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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If he had said it in Germany or Austria he would have been arrested on criminal charges of holocaust denial. He could still be extradited under one of the infamous European Arrest Warrants.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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According to the news he has apologised, which is all very good but you do not say something like that unless the thoughts are in your head already.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it transpires that the french police have now charged him with something or other, seems a bit over the top.
over here drunken idiots can get away with as many daft statements as they choose.
Then that too is wrong. I know we all say daft things in our cups, but someone in the public eye has that extra bit of responsibility. Plus, he was caught bang to rights. Tit.
PS BarryW, it was PC, of course it was politically correct in every sense of the words. Just because you have an aversion to the words doesn't nullify them!!!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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he got the sack, surely enough.
i have to agree with blue barry(will make an appointment with my g.p tomorrow) certainly not about political correctness.
the man went into a bar in a wealthy jewish area of paris and openly acted like a prat.
he seems like the sort of chap that would have a go at ginger people if they were near to him when he was elephants.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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As I understood it from PaulB's post, he didn't deny the genocide that Hitler had carried out, for which, as Peter correctly points out, there is a law in Austria and in Germany promissing criminal charges.
He seems to have glorified the genocide, and this is totally unacceptable, offensive; it wouldn't surprise me if there are laws in a number of countries that consider this too a criminal offence!
Personally I don't use the word holocaust in reference to the genocide that took place during the Second World War, as it has a biblical meaning and refers to sacrifice of certain animals in honour of God in the days of the Old Testament. It cannot refer to people!
Furthermore, the genocide, as pointed out by other posters, also hit many other people, includiing Gypsies, and also Soviet prisoners of war.
I think that this individual has commited a serious breach of law with his statements, and if he is in a foreign country, he might well be expelled and asked not to return.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Ironic that I had never heard of this git until he put his foot in his mouth.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes indeed Alex he revelled in the genocide. However it is a pity we cant charge him under some sort of genocide law as Peter says there.
But yes of course this uproar falls under the PC umbrella. Its not PC to say stuff like this anymore hence the massive kerfaffle. You could have said stuff like this years ago and some would have been shocked, but there wouldnt have been a worldwide massive kerfaffle. This is the point. This is positive PC in action surely.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I still disagree over the use of pc in this context. Being a prat as someone put it is being a prat full stop. There would have been an uproar about this behaviour even back in the good old non-pc days of the 70's while we were regularly enjoying episodes of Love Thy Neighbour.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry! I looked into the episode, and it appears that the person who said horendous things in Paris deeply regrets it, and does not try to use it as something to take lightly.
He seems to be aware of the damage he has caused to the feelings of many people, and how this has shamed him.
The French Police are not taking it lightly, and he has stated that he's cooperating with the Police in the matter.
Ross Miller
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Peter - not surprised you have never heard of him, as you never really struck me as a fashionista
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Unlike you with your woolly hat, Ross!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Oh I am the last one to talk about fashion, but my late partner was a womens clothes designer and maker so was well up on the ins and outs of the fashion world
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi