Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
22:2993410#1
I think it should be law that every one Vote this the only way to get a true reading. All over the world we see the public dieing and geting killed just to vote,and in the UK most can not even turn off their TV ,and all voting should be postal.
Ross Miller
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19 February 2011
22:4893413#2
Vic
Please think before you post - postal voting is rife with fraud today and will always be open to fraud and abuse.
Certainly not the way to encourage participation.
Compulsory voting does not guarantee 10% turn out - in fact no country that has this achieves a full turn out as there are people who would rather pay the fine than vote.
The only real way to increase genuine participation in the democratic and electoral process is for politicians to make their policies genuinely relevant to the electorate, to actually listen and take note of what the electorate say and to stop appearing to all be the same and entirely lacking in any principles. Until politicians and their parties do that people will refuse to participate
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
22:5693416#3
Nah Vic, one can't force people to vote.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
22:5993417#4
There are ways now Ross that will make the postel vote 99.9 safe they do not use it yet but it is in place. You can never make all happy no party can do that ,what you have to do is pick one that is more in line with your own thinking than the others, but I do not have to tell you that do I?
The fines would have to very very big and if you still do not pay ,then off to jail for afew weeks to think it over again ready for the next time.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
23:0393419#5
Vic, this is not UKIP policy!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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19 February 2011
23:1093425#6
Perhaps postal voting for prisoners? After all, they are hardly going to stage a massive breakout on polling day. Or are they?
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
23:1293426#7
ROFLMAO - thanks Peter for taking this down to its proper level
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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19 February 2011
23:1793427#8
Alexander, Vic is my friend and I don't think you should attack him on doctrinal grounds on open forum. The forum is there for Keith to attack BarryW and for no other purpose. You are misusing it.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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19 February 2011
23:2093428#9
Are you suggesting that people should be heavily fined and sent to prison for not voting?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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19 February 2011
23:2193429#10
Or perhaps we should vote via the red button on our TV remote controls. Now that would get turnout well above 100%!
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
00:1393432#11
Thank you for that Peter,I must point out to you what I am saying is my views and my views only and not that that of any party I might be in.
But is it not true even today we see on the TV that members of the public are geting killed just for the right to vote,aright which we have had in the Uk for well over 100years or more.
We know that we have the best way to run a country and our doctoring of that way is now done in alot of other countrys around the world.
We do not only owe it to ourselfs but the whole world that our way is best and that can only be done by all of the public in the UK voting and in that way the world will see that it works.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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20 February 2011
00:5393436#12
No thank you, Vic!
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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20 February 2011
01:0293437#13
Could Vic's conversion to postal voting be due to the fact he is currently standing for election to be a member of the East Kent University Hospital Trust Board of Governors (what a mouthful) and all the voting is by post?
How about bringing into the 21st century and voting by Facebook, the one with the most friends wins?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
07:2693440#14
Free to vote, free not to vote.That's true democracy.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
08:0393443#15
That's true choice Marek.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
08:1493444#16
Roger
Vic only wants compulsorary voting introduced because he believes that more people would vote for him and the mentally unstabled Unzipped party.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
09:1093446#17
I am with you on this Marek. Compulsory voting would just result in more spoilt ballots.
By not voting people are making a statement.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
10:1193448#18
Already we see more and more of the public voting by post and they are not just the old I think it is well over the 1million mark now that vote by post,all you have to do is aske for a postal vote and you get it so we could all do it,even mywife and myself are going to aske for it now.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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20 February 2011
10:1893450#19
Shall not have the pleasure of seeing you on election day then Vic .I only agree with postal votes for those who cannot get to the polling station on the day .My sons and people away working or for people who are too ill to get th the polling station .
You can not beat seeing people turning out to vote .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
10:2993453#20
I might not be walking at that time so I am going to do it by post this time in that way I know it will count.