Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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11 September 2008
15:035953Sorry Sue but that does still not answer the question, what are they bidding is it their points, sob stories or something we can only know about by attending the sessions?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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11 September 2008
15:335954Yes Chris it is the points .Mr X looks in the brochure decides to bid for it .Bids are received and if you have enough points you can view it .What it cuts out some people do not want to go to some areas so when offered a property usually say no whereas if they could find something in the brochure who knows they may like it .Its still points and as you know points get allocated taking a lot into consideration .On a public forum I dont want to discuss your case but worth checking on your points .This system may help you .
12 September 2008
07:096008It is a great idea for offering choice, and I would applaud that, but council and social housing is generally targetted at the vulnerable, who are vulnerable for a variety of reasons, many of which leave them unable to exercise all their options without considerable support and assistance, which is a severe challenge to manage given the nature of their vulnerabilities. I do think that this kind of scheme misses the target groups most in need.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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12 September 2008
14:026026And I have to ask, what happens when all the most desirable properties are let? Given that each year there are fewer and fewer council homes this will happen very quickly so are those officers with more time on their hands (because the residents are doing the bidding and selecting for them) going to be building? I also have to ask, if five families with identical points bid for the same property (bound to happen under this system) what criteria decides who gets it?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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14 September 2008
09:126076chris
lots of unanswered questions
but until whoever controls councils and the Govt decide its ok to build council houses again the situation will get worse
14 September 2008
10:376077I couldn't agree more.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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14 September 2008
17:106090A change in the system to allow the purchase and renovation of older properties (with the necessary change to the tax imposed on renovation) would be a very good first step.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 September 2008
19:436098i think that the days of local authorities building accommodation are over.
housing associations seem to have taken over this mantle thoroughly.
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15 September 2008
22:216142Even if it was left up to Housing Associations, Howard, at least that would still benefit both those who can't afford to buy or rent privately and also the town that is blighted by empty and run down properties.
If more social housing isn't provided by either renovating or building then as far as I can see eventually we'll have a large homeless problem. With the credit crunch really gathering pace they'll surely be more people having their homes reposessed due to the size of the mortgages lenders lent them when everything was peachy, what are they going to do because if they can't afford a mortgage they certainly can't afford private renting so what's left.
It's not the man in my life, its the life in my man!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 September 2008
22:376145i must agree with everything that you say steph.
i think that the housing associations are less bureaucratic than local authorities, and will provide a better service to their clients.
16 September 2008
07:036148Nevertheless, it is the duty of local authorities to facilitate the provision of social housing, by whatever means. They are failing.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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16 September 2008
08:386157In your eyes we may appear to be failing however we operate a very good rent deposit scheme and it is likely we are to have more funding for this .The Housing associations are providing numerous schemes around Dover .Look at Astor Avenue .The Prince of Wales site part of will be to rent.If we could keep our five million it would help ,meanwhile the list gets longer .The officers at DDC work flat out to aquire schemes .The old post office site may offer up some homes ??
Granville Street provided homes .There will be homes to rent on the DTIZ site .Not failing work in progress .Blame the government we work with what we have limited resources .By the way thats why I dont have time to answer or visit certain people who post on another forum.Inm off to Municipal Charities today.More Homes ??
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 September 2008
19:136188good luck at municipal charities susan.
do you think that they will ever give a straight answer to the public, about their properties?
i must agree with you about councils having to work with limited resources regarding housing.
i remember that during the great thatcher (home sale of the century), the rule was brought in that receipts could not be used for housing.
i take it that is still the case.
16 September 2008
19:216194Time management is a skill worth developing but not an excuse for not performing. And I include myself in that pop.
Guest 676- Registered: 1 Jul 2008
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16 September 2008
23:046223ok Sue
no one else has asked it so i will. When where the tenents asked? What tenants were asked. I have checked the minutes of the area and district groups and cant see it.
See you Thursday and I want answers
Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 September 2008
23:066225you are ever the optimist stewart.
you must learn to fawn and tug your forelock in gratitude.
Guest 676- Registered: 1 Jul 2008
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16 September 2008
23:166229Lets not forget here any money spent here is public money. Paid for by you and me (through council tax). Dont you want to know what these people are doing with your money?
Sue
choise is yours. answer here or I will ask again at our meeting on Thursday.
Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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17 September 2008
09:366238Hullo Stewart,
I will not be at tomorrows meeting Im in Maidstone Supporting People.Choiced based Lettings was discussed earlier in the year at cabinet went to Scrutiny .Tenants will be having a briefing on 7th October .I have already stated its brought upon us by government we had to bring the new system in by 2010.It does not just effect existing tenants but those who are not currently tenants.
It is a much fairer system and people will have choice.I think you will see this at your briefing in October .Canterbury and Thanet already do this .
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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17 September 2008
16:356249A 'briefing' rather than a consultation with a group set up by DDC to speak on behalf of tenents. Have we given up all pretence of being in council in order to represent the people that elect us now?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 September 2008
19:386262i spotted that word "briefing", mind you, it is more honest than consultation.
our bern will know what "consultation" means.