Keith Sansum1
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oh dear
why dont they let us decide
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Philip may I refer you to my #14...
'As far a processed food is concerned, and as things stand with it. The consumer IS most definitely manipulated to the nth degree.
I am with you Ken, let us not manipulate out fellow country-persons. Let us then ban all food advertising and fancy packaging.'
I agree with you too Philip, I am against the "proxy for mass control." that is advertising.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Ban Kellogs Frosties ehhhh? and what about Sugar Puffs?
I loved 'em as a kid, they did not make me get fat. Funny thing is that I put on weight in older life after I stopped eating them.
This is a matter of personal choice - leave people alone to make their own decisions and just make sure they have the information to make those decisions.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sounds a better idea
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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There is money to be made here, the new Enforcement Officers can patrol the ever growing number of Coffee Shops and issue fixed penalty fines to anybody caught putting sugar in their cups
Audere est facere.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Tom, how much would you have to eat per day to have an intake of 48 teaspoons of sugar per day? I don't believe I eat that much in total per day.
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How can anyone ``fully``... support any political party?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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5 cans of Red Bull plus 3 cups of tea or coffee, each with 3 sugar, plus a small tin of baked beans equals about 48 teaspoons of sugar.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Govt airs healthy eating TV ads
"The government is launching a new campaign aimed at exposing the hidden 'nasties' in everyday foods.
Created as part of the Change4Life initiative, the adverts mark the launch of a new healthy eating drive and involve a number of food manufacturers and retailers, including Asda, the Co-operative Food, Quorn, Uncle Ben's and Cravendale."
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/interactive/news/govt-airs-healthy-eating-tv-ads-id801517360-t1.html Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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"Aspartame is an artificial, non-saccharide sweetener used as a sugar substitute in some foods and beverages. In the European Union, it is codified as E951. Aspartame is a methyl ester of the aspartic acid/phenylalanine dipeptide. It was first sold under the brand name NutraSweet; since 2009 it also has been sold under the brand name AminoSweet. It was first synthesized in 1965 and the patent expired in 1992.
The safety of aspartame has been the subject of several political and medical controversies, congressional hearings and Internet hoaxes since its initial approval for use in food products by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1974. A 2007 medical review on the subject concluded that "the weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener". However, because its breakdown products include phenylalanine, aspartame must be avoided by people with the genetic condition phenylketonuria (PKU)."
The above is the cuddly view. For a sterner opinion, and for some shocking reports on the DANGERS of diet drinks etc....
http://www.documentaryz.com/c9-health/1931-sweet-remedy-adulterated-food-supply/
[unputdownable, if it were a book]
To avoid ALL the dangers of sugar, but get all the sweetness (without the carbs!) Why not try 'Stevia'...
http://www.stevia.com/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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As far as this 'poisonous' aspartame and the EU goes, and it goes very very slowly. The European Food Standards Agency (efsa) will publish it's recommendations (they say) in May this year...
http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/aspartame.htm
The afsa seems to have nothing to say about MSG.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I think it's fair that if people make unhealthy lifestyle choices leading to increased need for expensive healthcare in later life, they should either pay for their habits through taxation on those unhealthy products or pay for treatment of self-inflicted illnesses.
I am totally pro freedom of choice in all things but not in favour of immunity from the consequences.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alcohol as well peter?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We do pay as far as alcohol is concerned through high alcohol taxes Keith.
Interesting thought from something I read over the weekend.
Healthy lifestyles and keeping fit is a huge thing in New York. There is a massive boom in health clubs as well. Apparently it is being driven by the Private Medical Companies and the extra premiums they charge if someone is unfit or have a unhealthy lifestyle. It can make a massive difference. In addition discounts are available for those who do keep fit.
Seeing the obesity levels in the USA there is either a lot of people without PMI or many just don't care... or, more likely though, the premium differentials are increasing and in so doing encouraging essential changes in lifestyles. There are contracts in the UK for health related insurance products that encourage this too.
Now I would not advocate the American health system for the UK but I am certainly in favour of dumping the failing NHS in favour of a European style insurance based system. Perhaps this would have another benefit then, not just a better health service, but encourage more healthy lifestyles as well.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yes Keith, we pay loads of tax on that. Unless you brew your own beer and have a still in your garden shed.
So if you buy alcohol and tobacco legally you are already paying. But not if you consume vast amounts of refined sugar. Despite the attempts of the sugar and food processing industries to discredit the research, it has been proven to my complete satisfaction that sugar is the number one cause of heart disease and type 2 diabetes, neither of which I desire.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson