Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Regardless of what the law says, could someone please explain to me why it is reasonable that a foreign criminal should be able to avoid deportation just because he/she has put down roots here?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Another good point well made!
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Can we complain that immigrants do not make sufficient effort to integrate AND tell them that no matter how they strive to be at one with we natives if they commit a crime they will be sent back to where they came from while their co-accused are returned to the community that they all, so recently, shared?
Should their British children go too?
I recall, that in the eighties one fellow was deported from England...back to NI.
The Tories seem still to be driven by the head-lines of the gutter press.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
If they did not commit a serious crime the question would not arise, I do not think anybody is saying they should be deported for petty criminal acts.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
unfortunately we are stuck with our own miscreants.
listening to mr clarke we have no need to be lumbered with visiting ones but still allow them to stay.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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A lot to read but helpful if you want to know some of the facts rather than the bullsh*t put out by the Tories. (Apologies for the language but this abuse of power infuriates me).
"....the case concerned a man who came to the UK as a student and was refused leave to remain and did not concern deportation on grounds of criminal conviction. The immigration judge had allowed his appeal on the basis of a former Home Office policy (DP3/96) which said that if an individual lived in the UK with a settled spouse for two years or more without enforcement action being taken against them, they were entitled to leave to remain. The appeal was also allowed on Art 8 grounds - he had a long-term relationship with a British citizen and they had lived together for four years. The reference to the cat was one detail provided by the couple as evidence of their long-term relationship but did not form any part of the tribunal's reasons for deciding that he should be allowed to stay in the UK.47 The Home Office appealed but the senior immigration judge upheld the decision on the basis that the former Home Office policy (DP3/96), although it had since been withdrawn, still applied in this case (due to the date of the initial decision)"
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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There are agreements between many countries for criminals to serve sentences in their own countries. I believe that any foreigner who receives a custodial sentence should be deported at the beginning of his sentence to serve his time back home.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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As far as article 8 goes, Peter, there is no reason why a criminal cannot be deported. It is covered in the first two paragraphs:
Article 8: Right to Respect for Private and Family Life
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
With reference to immigrants it is clear from the European Convention on Human Rights that:
"The Home Office can also decide to deport someone on the grounds that his or her presence is 'not conducive to the public good'".
Exactly. The legislation already exists, it is down to interpretation and frankly the fear of those managing it.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
says it all mark robby and bern
and help!!!!!!
this is the thirs time iv agreed wit peter!!!!!!!!
must get stronger pills lol
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