quote #18 'I've moved around a lot of areas in the UK and overseas and have concluded that many arguments against migration really should not be entertained and often direct discussions of this nature into rather nasty territory'.
AMBERLEAF: In this country we have freedom of speech thats what make us ‘British’ stand out from the rest or we thought we had it, but being suppressed by those who come here bleating their rights and trying to change our laws on this issue. You think arguments against migration should not be entertained because it gets to nasty territory. I think you should read your post over attacking ‘British families’ now thats nasty and uncalled for and very personal.
quote #18 ‘You only have to go to Folkstone to realise that a higher level of migration is better for the local economy; the high street is much busier, there are more jobs, it's more affluent and the house prices reflect this’.
AMBERLEAF
More jobs for who?
Migration is better for the migrants because they work for minum wage or below-that has a knock on effect for ‘British’ families. Does nothing for the british economy or british people, in fact it puts strain on it. You say: ‘I would take a hard working immigrant family over a house of spongers any day of the week’.
quote #18 ‘Dover is one of the whitest towns I have lived in and if this is the pinnacle of British culture then good God we are in trouble.
AMBERLEAFI think we are so white because of the Cliffs of Dover for one and two no-one wants to live here as there is nothing for them here so maybe thats why were so white but let me get my glasses because last time I was in town I thought I was in 3 or more countries with the amount of people walking around town. In fact I was so scared that I was in a different country and how it happened that I had to ask someone was I in Dover.
Let me say something now, you know nothing about our little broken and sucked dry town and the thousands upon thousands spent on helping those who come here draining our system with Dover people suffering and then moving onto to new pastures of gold. It would seem you want us to give our blood with it also and make sure our town is all colours of the rainbow by population. Let me say now, those who choose to stay ‘stay’ those who do not ‘go’ if we are ‘whiter’ it is because this is UK and there is no rule for us to be any other colour, but for you Ill start painting myself a different colour because you seem to think we should be living in less ‘white’ town. I don't care who lives here as long as they do not come to drain our town and that is simple but it's happening.
Another point government we want to fill the skill gap with jobs that cannot be taken up letting in other’s THEN SUPPLY WITH HOUSING don't take our little homes up that are needed for our towns people to live and basically as we were born here I think we have that bloody right really.
quote #18 ‘I have lost count of the number of British families on my street and at my kids' school who do not work and the government encourages them to spawn children through rent subsidies, tax credits etc. Many of them don't even treat their own children with any kind of decency or project any values to encourage them to study, save or work for what is undeniably a difficult future ahead.
They were all "British families' on your street who else would be there?
All I can say here is there some Data Protection issues and spying because you seem to know all the ‘British families’ information that is personal to them on your street-you say : ‘do not work’ ‘get rent subsidies’, ‘tax credits’- ‘don't even treat their own children with any kind of decency’ or ‘project any values to encourage them to study’, ‘save’ or ;work for what is undeniably a difficult future ahead’.
For you to know so much about these British families’ you would have had to go through all their personal information or basically spy to make such idiotic and attacking unfounded allegations against all these‘British families’ on your street.
British families have a difficult time ahead because we flood our little island with everyone who wants to gold dig and if you can give me another excuse to why people want to come to an over crowded wet country I would like to hear it.
quote #18 I would take a hard working immigrant family over a house of spongers any day of the week.
There you go your either a migrant or a business owner to make such a statement. Either way it's attacking really isn't it as it is directed at ‘British families’. You also contradict yourself you slag of british families not working then say the above. No wander they are not working and my point on this ‘opening gates’ to our island and no jobs for our children future. Case closed on that one then.
quote #18 ‘Another problem is the disgusting policy of topping up minimum wages with tax credits, effectively subsidising private rents and allowing companies to pay well below the minimum wage - which is topped up by the taxpayer. The result of this is that the real take-home difference between earning between 16k and 35k is surprisingly small’.
What you said covers the above: ‘I would take a hard working immigrant family over a house of spongers any day of the week’.
As migrants will work for any wage so began the wage war and who to employ, meaning ‘british people’ were finding difficult to get a job and finding the low paid jobs and government topping those up to living standards. The problem is here because we made it a problem you said yourself ‘I would take a hard working immigrant family over a house of spongers any day of the week.
Let me say here now that since 2009 government set out to put all single mothers and fathers to work meaning they were running the home on a single wage giving CWTC is not a disgusting in fact its been proven to save money for this country and give single parents the chance to work although over working them and stressing them so badly in doing so. As I said about ‘Piles’ you wont know unless you suffer it. However, I do think the CWTC should be lowered further to meet around £20,000 mark.
How dare you attack 'British families' as you have here, I think we put up with enough basically and if you don't like our country or its 'british families' or the way government supports them in work or other, you can always move to another country that leaves their people rotting on streets and dying, although this does happen here
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If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
