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  paulb
  I did say some time ago these divisions in both the lib dem and tory parties will result in an early election, lets see if im right.
  
  regarding lib dems, like you say paul b the lib dem front bench have lost the faith of the electorate not only on this issue.
  
  just looking at the KCC elections lib dems couldnt even find a Dover candidate sad but true.
  
  look towards folkestone where lib dems were strong they gave control to tories by breaking away lib dems forming a people first party as they were disgruntled with the leadership and that was before clegg came on scene.
  
  the lib dems are a spent force, and they know it
  i suppose this will give space for other smaller parties to replace the lib dems with the protest vote.

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