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    paulb
    most of your posting is correct, but as simon hughes is only abstaining (big cop out) which is how this cobbled together govt will prob get this through.

    but a number of lib dems have half seen the light and will abstain which knowing lib dems thats about all you can realy ask for.

    theres no doubt the lib dems have never been a party of consistency, never been reliable.

    but there days are numbered, even those that abstain, it wont be enough to save them.

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