Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I like going round companys that I have worked that in the pass,all UK companys with most being family run companys,and they all have been going many years,all are doing very well,with one of them being a Dover Company,it was great working there for some years,and today they are not only still going but they have alot of work on ,and been that way for 25-30 years.British companys and their workers are some of the best you will find in the world.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I too run my own business in Dover and pay tax, Ross. I'm not thinking of selling my business to a foreign company though.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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KB I quote from your post #7 "Yes very scary Ross , especially for business that do the right thing and have to compete with you ." hence my response...
I do not per your post #20 give one about you either
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i 'd watch your back alex if i was you, should any of the private equity locusts get wind of your success you would be on the streets before you could say "i put my trust in the fair lady".
just thought i would tip you off on this one.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I'm an old fox at the game, Howard, and have undercut all competition. NO-ONE can compete with me!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry to upset Syou but some of you are calling yourself companys,but infact you are what I was for 8years self emoloyment which in away you are right to call yourself anything and a company would be one of them. Infact intimes like we live in you are doing just the righthing to get on. But a company in the OXford Dictionary =Body of persons combined for common object,title of firm,it goes on and on,but I think you know where I am coming from,Most big companys start from being small first and then if they are good they get bigger and bigger.So what are your ends to stay just in self emoloyment or are you going to reg/ as acomdpany.?I done it because companys would take me on unless I was selfemployed,and they done it to keep their own costs down and I had to work out my own taxs etc. It was a con,but nothing I could do about it.But I was not a reg/company.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Ross
You ,
being the other companies not doing the right thing
scary for the other companies having to compete with the tax avoiding Foreign ones
Crystal clear to every body ells Ross, Catch-up me old sausage .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All my work came from one company,in the end that company was told by the tax man to put me on the cards or do not use me all the time ,and I was using my own headed note paper calling myself Vic Matcham 24 hour welding service good rates,I had my own van with that painted on the sides but the taxman said, fine more companys to work for or they would take my tax card off me. So if you are doing the same working for one company only, be carefull.I ended up by going overseas.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is a difference from being a company and being self employed, it used to be that if even just one person set up a business with limited liability that made it a company, i don't know if things are still the same.
a lot of businesses over recent decades have made their staff self employed, most milkpersons are and courier companies too hence their drivers moving like blue bottomed flies.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think if you call yourself a company and still only do work for one bigger company,after a few weeks or so the taxman will be looking into it.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Vic the limit for freelance consultants/contractors "subbing" for/working at another another company before they are considered to be employees is 24 months. Provided you comply with the relevant rules and restrictions placed on limited liability concerns then everything is ok.
KB if what you had written had been clear then...
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I do not know the rules as they stand today,it was in the 1980s and 90s when I done it. But I am not trying to put anyone off doing it,as I said it is great to see men and women doing it and not just siting there ,waiting for a job to turn up which will not happen in the bad times we are working in.I was set up on my own with workshop and van and the gear ,but because I went year in and out working for just the one company the taxman came to see me or by letter telling me that I must get more work frrom more than one company as they do not look at the way I was working was that as a company.But I was working all over theUK and even overseas 7DAYS AWEEK and had no time or need to go to find anymore work.In fact I was turning work away I just could not do anymore then I was doing.Was I so good to get all this work? I do not think so,I got no overtime worked for the same money at weekends as weekdays,No days off,I went to Liverpool on one job which should have been for one week,but was up there over 18weeks without time off and did not get home,in fact I was there so long in digs that I got a council tax bill from the Liverpool council,which I must say I did not pay.It was and still is very hard working like that so anyone doing it ,Its a well done from myself.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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P&O Ports (to Dubai),
I hope Howard didn't see that
Brian Dixon
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alex,common knoledge,but did upset the yanks at the time.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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When I started working for myself in 2006 I very quickly got so much business that I couldn't do it all myself, so I formed a Limited Liability company and started employing other people. I, and many other small companies, fly beneath the radar of the multi-nationals whilst providing them with invaluable services. We are too small for them to have an interest in buying us, but provide a wealth of skills, expertise and industry knowledge that they need to buy in from time to time in order to achieve what they need to achieve.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the problem sometimes supplying the multinationals can be the time they take paying invoices, 30 day terms ban quickly become 90 days.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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No disagreement from me there Howard. Such a delay in payment nearly sunk me a few years ago and I have been extremely careful about which of the biggies I take work from ever since.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That happens many times and takes small companys out with it.Some big companys will tell you "We only pay out bills two times a yearThey even tell you when that will be.We have just a very big company in Dover just doing that and any small company working for them find it very hard to make ends meet after doing the jobs and waiting weeks for their cash. Some will take out bank loans till they get paid,in the end they are not making any money for the work they have already done weeks before very unfair.. Companys still have not paid me after 14 years . I will never see it now.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The last company I worked for and on the cards was the bestof them all,they were very fair and paid me more than I was worth to them . It was and still is one of the best companys to work for and it is a Dover Company.If you get to work for them think yourself lucky,there are not many like them about. I do not agree that half the companys in the UK are owed by overseas boss,s yes most of car companys are and water companys,bus companys but that does not make up half of UK companys,But if they had not taken them over the mess we are in would even be bigger,but they have seen that the British worker is still one of the best worker in the world most will work 24/7 it is not like that overseas.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just read through the original link again and it says the "p & o ports" were sold to dubai.