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    mark posted an interesting link, i posted a link from the same chap on one of the hacking threads.

    the blogger, one peter oborn seems to have seen the light on the road to damascus, always a lover of all things blue nowadays he speaks of dave and his cronies as something to be scraped off of the bottom of his shoe.

    i agree that the rot starts at the top and filters down, there are not many in business or politics that command respect and/or affection.

    there is no real leadership from our religious leaders either.

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