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    Well said Jimmy. Quite right.

    So Ross you go and tell your receptionist just what you have just said - that her life is not worth the waterboarding of a terrorist. That is what you have told us - its very easy to do when it is all academic and theory. i wonder what you would really do if you were in that position.

    I admit I would squeeze a terrorists nuts with pliers to get any information needed to save your life or anyone elses, do whatever it takes and to hell with niceties.

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