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  Howard - one of those GWB said was waterboarded was a top-dog in the organisation, not a mere bod. I would expect they would not waste time unless there was a good reason to think they would hit pay-dirt.
  
  Ross - wonderful to have your scruples and congratulations for sticking by your principals. But that is you - what about the children who would have died with you visiting the landmark? Then there is the typist or the receptionist in your office.? Would you really look them in the face and tell them that you would prefer that they die in a terrorist incident than for a terrorist to be waterboarded, if doing so might save their lives? Would they share your scruples?
  
  it is easy to talk in abstract or about yourself but real life is different.

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