Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#1
Can anyone please explain the logic behind the pavement widening at the bus stop near Iceland.
The bus used to pull in to the bus layby allowing the traffic to flow freely, when the work is done the buses will block half of the road causing possible holdups. Complete madness.
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
#2
They did a similar thing in Canterbury a few years back, the buses now hold up the traffic so they don't have to wait for a gap to pull out when they're ready, which generally means the buses loose the goodwill of the drivers who in the main used to let them out once they saw them signalling.
Seems even more madness to put it in on a dual carriageway though
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#3
I understand some traders complained that their entrance was being blocked .I can see the new arrangement will cause chaos .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#4
at present it is quite common for two buses to turn up at the sme time there meaning a lane is partially blocked.
it may also stop some drivers using that stretch as a formula one stretch.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#5
There are often more than two buses and they already pull up outside Blackmans on the extended bus area blocking Blackmans trade entrance. Stagecoach could easily have arranged their departures from Pencester so this does not happen.
I do see how any shop entrance was blocked as the pavement was quite wide also people will still lean against the buildings.
Howard, that stretch of the road is usually full of slowish moving traffic because of the lights so during the day it is never a "formula one stretch".
I also suspect it will be more difficult to cross the road outside the Charlton Centre.
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
#6
What got me was the digger was one side of the road and the Lorry was opposite on the other side,so everytime the digger had some spoil they had to stop the traffic.But the digger man didnt load his shovel until after the traffic had been stopped!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#7
I understand that it is to enable Stagecoach to keep to their timetable better, so they don't have to wait for trafffic - rather, the other way round.
They did this with the bus-stop outside my old guest house in Folkestone Road; good for the buses and their drivers, less good for other road users.
Roger
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#8
Roger, I agree completely. Buses never had to wait more than a few seconds to pull out as they used their size to force their way into the traffic, therefore the Stagecoach reason is rubbish.
I have just thought of another problem. The large Iceland lorries and others that have deliveries stop outside our shop or on the other side of the road while they wait for their unloading bay to be free this will cause even more problems.
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#9
This town takes delight in employing cowboy builders who just think they have the god given right to dig up this town and place bollards any were and cause Probs.The gas works on london rd the new tarmac has dips in it all ready why is the highways not checking on these works and making them put things wright. As for the buses i would always give way to them pulling out but not any more we all pay road tax and have the same rights as any other road user, and there drivers have no respect for any of us as i witnessed a couple of weeks ago at Aycliffe when one bus driver used the steps that go under the A20 to Shakespeare beach as his own toilet got back in the bus had a fag then drove on making himself late then driving like an idiot to make up time.And in weeks to come when all these Gas works have been finished along will come the water or someone else to start all over again,That's why this town looks so shabby because of the way things are put back after being dug up. So come on Dover clean up your act at the council offices get on top of this and show us all you care about dover like so many of us do.
#10
Can Dover get a new bus company to service this town or are we stuck with stagecoach ?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#11
Stagecoach did not rquest the move of the bus stop being discussed .Local retailer .Cllr Collor has the details .
Stagecoach do a very good jobs considering the road works in this district .
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#12
JAN';
Sadly once again the councils hide behind the fact that they are powerless to do anything as theres no legislation in place to allow them to do anything, of course this is only p;artly correct, all utility companies are supposed to be monitored,have permission to do works by the council
ALAN;
The bus driver should be reported for his act, only by doing so will things not happen.
on the question of contracts, getting a new transport provider does not mean a better service.
there are a large number of good drivers out there who go the extra mile, as i use the buses more than 3 times a day often a lot more, i do see for myself.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#13
alan,there used to be public bogs on that corner untill some idiot/s desided to catch them alight a few times.if i remember it was a lad or two who lived near you that done it.and besides that there is hardly any public bogs within easy reach for the bus driver to use.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#14
I think the word you are trying to find is toilet.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#15
still no excuse though brian
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#16
kieth,wasnt making excuses just pointing out the lack of public bogs people could use.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#17
Again we see this kind of talk,on a public forum it is out of order,please keep to the
right wording.
#18
So, how offensive is the word Bog? Remember I am Irish..........
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#19
Thats 3 threads I've just read where Mr Vic Whitehouse Matcham has made a unilateral decision to reprimand forumites and their use of our romantic language. Mr Matcham when did you get appointed as a keeper of ,what in comparison to a myriad of other forums is, a very polite forum?
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#20
Bog, a wetland of mosses or lichens over waterlogged peat
Bog, British slang for toilet
Bog spavin or boggy hock, a swelling on the hock joint of a horse
Bog standard, a slang term for something basic or mediocre
Bog, Australian slang for (usually) automotive body filler Bondo (putty)
Vic is having a narrow minded evening.
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