Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#1
Cameron`s infamous claim that his government would be the ``Greenest``ever will take another nail in his `Headliner` promises.
Osborne`s autumn statement will include a full steam ahead for `Shale Gas``drilling to commence.
The system is anti-environment due to it`s heavy use of highly toxic chemicals which remain deep below and can /does
permeate to our water supplies.....
.Kent has many Aquifers that would be vulnerable..............
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#2
So will this gas be sold of abroad like the north sae supplies?
Or kept for home consumption to ensure uk energy security ?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#3
The question is: is drilling for shale gas the solution to Britain's future energy supply?
It might be, but then again perhaps not.

Keith Sansum1
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#4
we have a serious problem on the future energies and what is the best way forward
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#5
We do, Keith!
Gov. is trying to suss out the optimal solution.
They might have found it, or may-be not.

Keith Sansum1
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#6
The mouse id pretending to look towards green issues, but then goes in the opposite direction
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
the u.s. economy is bouncing back on this new cheap energy.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#8
The biggest long term energy supply is still in the Middle East and the Soviet Union
One day the west will have to get these supplies, one way or the other .
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#9
The Millions of tons of coal beneath our feet, here in Kent alone, will have to be used sooner or later but will it benefit the UK?
Selling off Licences for mining our coal, to an Australian company, here in Kent , and other countries elsewhere, has already sealed the fate of this country getting cheap fuel from one of its own sources, yet again.
Coupled with big energy companies such as British Gas investing £Billions into Australia & Asia's future Coal Energy program and not doing so in this country, then we can only look forward to a bleaker future.
As for Fracking, most data collected so far has been via the USA, where very few restrictions or regulations where imposed on them.
If it does go ahead then it should only be allowed with this hindsight and with very much tighter rules and regulations.
I'm on the fence on this at the moment.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#10
Agreement Gary coal is king
Licences and the selling of the utilities can be reversed with a change of politicians
Theft is theft
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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There should be a huge opencast pit offshore where the Goodwin Sands are now. The costs of excavation would be met by the sale of the overburden for aggregate, coal for miles around could then be extracted via horizontal shafts from the main pit, when its exhausted in 30 years, just breach the sea defences and its gone in a flash. I have in mind a circular pit 5 miles in diameter and 3000 feet deep. There is such a pit in Canada.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#12
Can you give a link to that pit peter ? ,I would love to see such a feet of engineering
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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This one is in Utah, not quite as wide but over 4000 feet deep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingham_Canyon_MineI'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
As you know I have saying for years now opened up our pits again and with up todate working ways,we would have power for the next 100years or more and 1000s of jobs with them.

Keith Sansum1
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#15
maybe the pits shouldn't have closed in the first place??
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#16
Vic, I'm afraid your proposed solution is obsolete: coal in Kent is done and over with, we've washed out hands of it.
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Brian Dixon
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#18
coal is compressed wood,it takes about a million years.

Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#19
Alex.
Coal will be mined in the future, of that I am sure.
PhilipP.
Interesting read, food for thought on that one.
Brian
SpeigelOnline.
Flexible Fossils
One of the biggest challenges of Germany's ambitious energy revolution is the fact that renewables such as wind and solar are subject to large fluctuations in output. Coal has long been considered their dirty alternative, but a new generation of power plants may herald a glowing future for the fossil fuel.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-coal-fired-plants-could-be-key-to-german-energy-revolution-a-854335.html"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#20
# 19 agree.......coal is an enormous asset for East Kent and will be used in the not to distant future.......