Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#41
reg
Your labour party did nothing to elevate poverty reg
Your party lowered wages amongst the poor
Keith Sansum1
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#42
keith b what a yawn lol
we have people struggling thus as howard says the slow drift back to the Victorian days
and food banks
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#43
keith s
So are you denying that the gap between rich and poor never got bigger under your Labour party's majority 13 years in office ??
Yawn all you like ,the reality is the Labour party shat all over the British working class
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#44
# 40....don`t be proud join the queue....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#45
you're on form this morning reg.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#46
Courtesy Guardian.....Poly Toynbee part artile..........
Why we all love Charlie Bucket (and despise the poor in real life)
We love the poor in fairytales, but survey after survey shows we are all too quick to blame real
people who fall on hard times.
The Citizens Advice Bureau reports a rise of 78% in the last six months in people needing food banks
to keep going. Many have jobs, but their pay doesn't see them to the end of the week. The CAB chief
executive says millions of families face a "perfect storm" with benefit cuts, low wages, short hours and
the high cost of living. Even in apparently well-to-do areas, community halls and churches are
opening food banks so all can see those queuing for tins of beans and packets of pasta: basic calories,
no treats and nothing fresh.
Yet polls show most people think the benefit bill is still too high, scroungers and frauds are rampant
and the screw needs to be tightened. A £21bn benefit cut is not enough, and there should be even
more stick and less (tinned) carrot.
YouGov polling finds overwhelming support for the benefit cap now rolling out. This week the cap
hits the Guardian's neighbouring Camden, where 606 households with high rents will have to move
on. Yet twice as many voters think "the government is not being tough enough" as think it's "too harsh".
YouGov's polling for the TUC found remarkable ignorance of the facts. People think 41% of the budget
goes on unemployment - the real figure is 3%. They think fraud accounts for 27%: even Iain Duncan
Smith's own figure is 0.7%. They think people have little incentive to work. In reality a parent
working 30 hours on minimum pay gets £138 more than on the dole. Polling for the Institute
for Public Policy Research similarly wildly mistakes who gets what. People think immigrants
account for the biggest slice when pensioners take half. They say pensioners and the disabled are
the most deserving, but if so, why is there no outcry about disability cuts and Atos tests where 1,300
people died last year after being found "fit for work"?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#47
Reg, 99% of what you post on here is c&p, are you singly incapable of forming an opinion of your own?
Is it a coincidence that you were leader of DDC and contributed to the demise of the town or were you just in the wrong place at the wrong time, I wonder.
You'll need to google a response, you won't be able to think of one yourself, but I do chuckle at failed politicians who suddenly find the answers
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#48
oh dear david how sad you are
reg can reply for himself but just a few comments,
1; as keith b admits the gap between rich and poor has got wider, and getting wider all the time
the attitude im alright jack pull up the ladder contributes towards this
2; its useful to have all the info rather than as reg indicates public opinion being made without all the facts
3; we can recognise theres a problem (no matter which govt is in office) or continue to be blinkered
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#49
Talking of failed politicians here's another one.
This one served 25 years while Dover declined............
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#50
wonder who that is
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#51
You.
Now you and Reg are out of office you have all the answers, shame you didn't when you were being paid
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#52
David
those that elected me, and others I served know how much I did but that's not for this thread
I will leave reg to reply further if he can be bothered with your negative attitude
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#53
Negative? Not in the slightest, its you and your running mate who continuously paste negative c&p without ever offering an alternative.
A succession of parties have overseen the decline of Dover in the last few decades, you have your fingerprints all over it from District to County level. Reg was LEADER of DDC, now all he can do is c&p articles.
Its time for a change and fortunately the damaged goods have run their course.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#54
I never c&p
One thing I do is encourage
but as ever looking at your last post
negative all over it
anyway you have a nice day
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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#55
what should be done about those unfortunate people who spend all their income on alcohol and are given food vouchers because they are not feeding themselves, is there another way?
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Lincolnshire Born and Bred
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#56
Who knows the answer Kath, in every society there are weak and vulnerable people that need caring for.
Are food vouchers issued? I'd certainly see that as a way people at least feed themselves
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#57
that's where we agree david
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Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
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#58
Tom Austin wrote:Nostalgia Alec, isn't what it used to be.
That's an old one Tom, heard it many times before, you must try better. All I was trying to say was that there were no food banks in those days and we managed. Obviously in 70 years there has been no progress in feeding the population.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#59
The majority just want a level playing field in the jobs market so they can support them selves
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#60
agreed
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