howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The lady may not be the only one who does not get it.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
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trouble is, the lady is asking a question that many leading conservatives are asking,
looks like the co olition is crumbling again
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Politics Today PMQ`s
Another Flashman error of judgement.
The ``Bullingdon Boy is deep set and the ``Bullingdon Club has been extended to one complete side of the House of Commons.
Rumbles in the Shires will be felt at grass roots.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#5
this realy was an error of judgement by leaderless dave,
to sit down whilst both the lady and cleggy waited for the answer was a big error of judgement
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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To be fair to Mr Cameron at this juncture, the question from Nadine Dorries, she of the rather large ego, was a rather unusual one to come from your own side. Dorries is frustrated at the lack of progress with her own abortion advice bill...and it clearly shows. Basically nobody is interested. Cameron said she was a 'frustrated' woman ...to loud guffaws all round.
She complained in her question about Libdem influence as did another backbencher on Camerons side of the house. So there is some considerable frustration, to use that word again, amongst Tory backbenchers. As it says in the feature linked above there, Dorries stormed out.
All got too much for her?
But Cameron yesterday on the return of PMQ appeared bulletproof. Very much on top of his game and very much now it seems the politician of the current era. Here he reads the riot act to his opposite number...
But what of Labour...?? After the long summer break when politicians of all hue were out there in exotica working on their tans of one hue, the Labour tiger didnt roar. It wimped about like a pussycat. Dear old Ed flabbergasted in good style but it reminded me of the Hungarian revolution of 1956, with the sad populace throwing little rocks at the impregnable soviet tanks, and all efforts harmlessly bouncing off. The Labour frontbench looks too weak all round. In the Tony Blair era there were considerable politicians on the Labour frontbench. They were good.
Now the cycle has fetched up the uncharismatic Ballses, Mrs Balls with an awful haircut, unwise, and the Eagleses, and the one with the very black hair..I forget her name. Its looking weak, no heavy weaponry on show here. No one to dent the Cameron armour.
Picture shows Ed trying his best. Flanked by Mrs Balls( Yvette Cooper) and her bad haircut and the redoubtable Harriet Harman.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I like Nadine, she is 'a bit of all right!' and agree with her over the issue of abortion, so its not all about her looks!!
DC perhaps should have ignored the barracking and answered the question for the press and media even if he knew the MPs would not hear it over the noise. That was not the House of Commons at its best.
Howard - DC was actually very prime ministerial, the role suits him. I just wish he could do what Nadine suggested! Sadly coalition politics does not work that way.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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i'm going in at the deep end,,,,,,,,,,,,,
My biggest frustration now is that leaderless dave like he showed during prime ministers question time wasnt interested in his own parties question, what hope other parties?
the lib dems are holding back the tories so we have this mish mash of policies/u turns/ tough talk, no action.
much the same ness.
So then balance that up to see if what the alternative is, Ed and his team need to inspire,which he only does from time to time, ed needs to get his act in gear and soon.
Ed balls may not be the tory favourite, but he does come across as knowledable, and camera friendly. but this cannot be said about other labour front benchers.
The labour proposal to parachute in women no matter what there ability is one that will stop me voting labour, sadly whats my alternative?
the country needs an alternative to this cobbled together govt, and leaderless dave.
charlie boy must be laughing his socks off at labours women only shortlist proposal supported 100% by the local labour party and outgoing gwyn.
I know theres a lot of labourites out there very frustrated
and labour if it doesnt change course, and doesnt do more to become a more
credible alternative govt, is destined to the side lines for some time to come.
All this is a shame when we see the mess of the cobbled together govt and leaderless dave.
cor blimey mate
all this honesty
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Barry
to have supported her would have made the party look even more out of touch with the world than any of the current policies they are pursuing. To have removed the counselling services of organisations such as Marie Stopes and the British Pregnancy Advisory Service would look like such a reactionary step that you should be happy it has been side stepped.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think that was one message mark robson that maybe leaderless dave should have answered head on, rather than running away.
the other message was the influence of the lib dems on the larger tory party
which is becoming a bigger and bigger frustration to back bench tories
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#11
Boris scores another plus.........beats Flashman at tennis............and exposes him as a true ``Left`` hander.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
i really cannot picture boris racing around a tennis court, in fact i am trying not to picture it.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Mark - it was all about separating the counselling from those who conduct abortions.
At the end of the day though that is not the real issue, it is a side issue.
Babies are being aborted at a point when, these days, many that are born prematurely survive. science has moved on and they need to shorten the window for abortions.
Personally I would restrict them even more and also allow abortions only for medical reasons, danger to the mother or medical problems for the baby plus where a pregnancy is the result of a violent rape.
I do think the more outspoken of the pro-abortion lobby can be rather strange though. They are quite happy to have innocent babies killed but you find that often they are also against the execution of those guilty of murder. Its a strange set of priorities that.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I notice that everybody who is Pro-Abortion has already been born. Reagan
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Barry
a decision of such magnitude (and I don't believe any woman takes it lightly) must be an individual one taken with knowledge of all the facts. To attempt to reduce access to this knowledge cannot be good for anyone.
Reagan had some good scriptwriters. This was just as well as, when left to his own devices, he could come out with gems such as:
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles."
Brian Dixon
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howard,it wasnt a pretty site,boris and david bouncing around the tennis court.
oh yes barryw before you start i do use a tennis racket.................for swating flys and irritating things.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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What is the moral difference between killing a person at the end of their life or at the beginning? (Ref the thread on assisted suicide) Tom should have a few epigrams to cover that.......
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#18
peter,its a racket thats all.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Mark - sadly some do take such a decision lightly, demonstrated by having had multiple abortions. No excuse for that.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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for me barryw you appear to be sitting in judge and jury
it comes down to individual cases which can be very varied
i dont sit in either camp on this one, these are the difficult decisions
would like to hear more from other posters
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