Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Farmers pledging poverty again.
They get subsetees and all sorts of taxpayer's grants.
They get paid not to produce food
The labour party have supplied them with hundreds of thousands of cheep east European labourers, and there still not happy
Has anybody ever seen a poor farmer?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
you are wrong here keith it was dairy farmers that were protesting over the way that the elite greedy supermarkets are driving prices down.
they are going out of business all over the country for many years now, the ones that survive are the ones that one or more family member goes out to work elsewhere.
all the statistics show that they are getting less from the e.g.s's than what it costs to provide the milk.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Forget milk ,Have you seen the price of stake And lam ?

Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard is right, it is the dairy farmers who are being squeezed and screwed by the milk-processors and supermarkets.
If we are not careful, in the not-too-distant future, all the milk we drink will come from abroad.
Consumers just don't want to pay (so the supermarkets tell us).
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
I heard this topic on the Radio 4 Farmers programme this morning. Farmers are incandescent and are as we know threatening to pour their milk down the drain rather than supply supermarkets, but as the HMG farming minister pointed out this will achieve nothing at all...other than a further loss for the farmer. Its a very price sensitive issue for the consumer and thats the over-riding factor. Retailers are convinced that consumers will NOT pay more...they just wont. Thats where the impasse kicks in.
But further to Keiths point that you never see a poor farmer. I thought about this very thing a couple of days ago. I bought a small sweet salad in Tesco. Twas in a little plastic box and it cost £1. Not much money on one hand...but when i looked at what I had bought later...there was very little in the box.. a few pieces of lettuce, some shredded carrot and one or two other bits.
If this tiny amount fetches £1...what does one field full of the stuff generate...a fortune thats what.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
For once my sympathy is with the farmer the middle men are the ones who are making all the profit, with the proposed cut the farmer will be loosing 5p on every pint he produces.
I certainly do not want to be forced to buy French/foreign milk if our dairy farms are forced to kill off all their cows. A side effect would be that it will completely change the look of our countryside with so few cows grazing the fields.
Paul you are paying a lot of money to the packing company bet the farmer got bugger all for his lettuce and carrots.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
My advice is that people should wherever possible buy from the farm direct, farm shops or farmers markets - this at lease ensures that the farmer makes some money on their produce.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Genetics. Isn't science a wondrous thing?
Some time soon, we shall each have some sort of genetically modified creature tethered beside us at our work-station. So that if and when we feel peckish we need only turn around and lick the beast or slurp-up some of the health-giving, thoroughly nutritious slime from off it's back.
Toilet breaks?
Why? What do you thing the creature eats as it's nourishment?
Constant lactation. A dream come true ladies?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
- Posts: 1,052
This was suggested to me recently:
"As you drive around the area look out for dairy herds".
You will not see many at all. This is the result of a supermarket driven policy to sell milk etc as loss leaders to get us in and buy lots of other things we don't want.
Poor farmers? You don't see many true farmers anymore either. The family farm is almost impossible to sustain with competition from conglomerates run by pension funds etc which have swallowed up farm after farm, sacked workers and replaced them with contractors.
It is, of course, highly efficient free marketeering and we should all applaud it as it means our milk is cheap.