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    i can see where you are coming from there dave regarding the traditional pub.

    a lot of people enjoy the old spit and sawdust pub, as opposed to the pretentious gastro pubs.
    those people usually set aside an amount of money to pay for their beer and baccy, and will not give those up
    no matter what.
    at the end of the day they may have a subscription to the sky movies and sports channel that they can cancel, should they have to go without a luxury.

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