Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Diana, it is true .And Southern England,from Cornwall to Kent is know as the TransManche Zone.
The West of Britain is parcelled off with parts of France, Spain, and Portugal as part of a new Atlantic region.
Eastern Britain along with Sweden,Denmark,Germany,the Netherlands and Norway becomes the North Sea region.
And Scotlands breaks away from Britain to become part of the Northern Periphery with parts of Norway. Greenland, Iceland and Finland.
The mapmakers state"The Channel has become azone of interacting and overlapping activities.
The Conservatives are playing politics with the issue,claiming that Labour are spending money on wiping our nation off the map.However, the TORIES FAIL TO MENTION THEY THEMSELVES could do little to stop the plans,since they agree with Labour and the Lib Dems that the UK should stay in the EU, where 75%of the UK laws are determined.
The only major party to advocate leaving the EU,UKIP,is outraged by the plans.
And Mr Watkins turns round and had the cheek to say what is UKIP doing about it. WE ARE SAYING GET OUT OF THE EU.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Vic.
"The only major party to advocate leaving the EU,UKIP,is outraged by the plans"
I wouldn't have called UKIP a major party.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well Roger We are 4th in the UK so it is right to be called a major party,but it is not about the size of any party but what they are saying and doing and after seeing what the top 3 are saying and doing,I am glad I am aCandidate in the 4th.
I see by your post you have said nothing about my post above so by that,I take you are in agreement with it.
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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I know there are many existing links (business development etc) with our friends in the Nord Pas De Calais region, but I think we should work even closer with them. For starters, Dover could take a few leaves out of Boulogne-sur-Mer's book, regarding revitalising our town centres.
English Channel? La Manche? Who cares? There's a big world out there.
Andy
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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........and to those who ridiculed Vic for starting this thread up as xenophobia or scaremongering people into voting UKIP at the election, I hope you will now have the good grace to apologise. This was headline news on the BBC this morning, confirming that every word Vic said was true.
Sad that the EU deem renaming a body of water in the first place worthy of being on any agenda, sadder still that they waste £1.1m on doing (in God's name, HOW can it cost any money at all?), but saddest of all is that people on here found it necessary to pillory Vic for posting the truth on here.
The truth often hurts; the open ridicule Vic suffers for telling things the way he sees them is really offensive and is more a reflection on those that post such comments than anything else. The opening salvoes of the election have barely begun, yet the nastiness is in full swing. Those of you who bemoan the low esteem politicians are held in should look at these comments and wonder whether or not there might be more respect and a higher turnout on polling day if you actually conducted a campaign that centred on policies rather than personal attacks on someone for telling the truth.
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have not seen any ridicule of victor on this andy.
the main doubt to me and others was the source of the story.
now that the beeb are running on it, it just shows the ludicrous nature of the european parliament.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have said this before,I will not lie just to get votes,with me is"what you see is what you get,again Andy thank you for your support.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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So, Howard, how can
"VIC
True why????
how do we know its true?
at the end of the day i recall stories being put around about loony left councils at that time but when you got in behind the stories none were correct.
but it sells papers"
not be an example of what I'm talking about? Or
"the express group of newspapers know that their main appeal is to gullible xenophobes.
their readers will be up in arms, happy to believe that the nasty foreigners are being beastly towards us."
Or
"never too early for the express group to dream up some rubbish for their readership."
There are those who pour scorn on Vic for whatever reason. Telling it how it is high on that list of reasons.
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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lost me there andy, all references were to the newspaper, not to vic.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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How convenient, Howard.
So, who exactly are the 'gullible xenophobes' you refer to as Express readers?
True friends stab you in the front.
Brian Dixon
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it seems to me that people have got the hump over the mear mention of europe,eu or evan a slight name change to a bit of water.being english/british or whatever you like to be called its still the english channel/straits or dover or what you would like to call it.ffs its only a streach oe water.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian, read my post it is not just about the Channel,but all of the UK, even our name will go, and you think that is right, well I do not.
It is not that I do not believe that a bunch of idiots are planning to change the name of the channel, but I find the fact that they have chosen the term "Le Pond" difficult to swallow. In the first place the Atlantic is known colloquially as the pond, in the second place the term is made up of two different languages, and in the third place a pond is a static pool of water.
That's all. I am not ridiculing Mr Matcham as such.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul Watkins, hi there! However, as to E.U. fundings, don't believe a word of it, it's all the biggest farse ever invented in human history! The E.U. never funds anything. They steal peoples money, by way of taxes and governments handing over the peoples tax-paid money, thumbs it about, use it to "finance something", then say that "they funded it".
They are just a bunch of Brussels crooks, aliens to this country, liars, thieves! The tax paid money of the People who worked for it and paid the tax cannot be the "E.U. money" which the "E.U generously invested into some project" The e.u. crats in Brussels do in fact get paid with the money of other people to sit there pretending to be the bosses almighty over 27 countries. Then they impose laws to grab billions of pounds and euros from the people, and pretend that this is "their money (the E.U.'s)", invest it, and want peopleto fall for it and say "thank you" and "god almighty e.u." and the like!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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vic,i know where you are coming from but and its a big but,this island of ours known as great britain or england which ever you prefer to call it will and i stress will remain the same now as well as after.its just an area that our friends in brussels call a region as what we call a county.this then would open up an oppertunaty to claim eu money for such things like redevelopement money for deprived areas like st james area etc.for example the dover train station spruce up is being funded by the eu.i could go on but want to bore you with details.if you want any more info try doing some research on the internet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you are right about the redvelopment aid brian, but that is just placatory.
the big economies of us, germany and france pay vast sums in, most of which goes to the newer members.
the big 3 get small amounts back, looks good when signs outside projects mention that it is funded by the EU.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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So what you are saying Brian is the the UK is up for sell and our history does not matter.
Also as I have said before the cost to the UK for being in the EU is £45million per day, so if we came out you could any kind of redevelopement you like with that kind of funding.
We give alot more that we get back.
Just like you or me going to the bank puting in a£100 and then they saying"Thank you sir for that,and you can draw out £55 of it we will keep the rest because you are banking with us"
What would you say to that"Thank you so much i will come again" or"No thanks I will take my cash where I can get it all back +more.
Unregistered User
A.D. I'm not fooled .
I'm all for getting back the sums we pay in.
If we ignore it , others will take it.
Andy S , we had the Mayor of Boulogne visit us last week to discuss EU programmes and co-operation.
Next week we have the Philippe Blet,President of the Commune Aglomeration Calaisis [Calais + surrounding towns] coming for further talks.
Watty
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Watkins,please tell us how that will help our town,we have been having this kind of talking for years,even I have been on them when on the D,T,C, we went over there had a meal etc went on to say how we can help each other,then they come over to the UK on a freebe like we did more talking more food more drink and off they go what happens next nothing only paying for it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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fair point vic, so far all the movement seems to be one way.
lets hope that the current talks bring something to fruition.
