Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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So is it just an Agreement in Principle they've signed Kevin, or a Contract?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is how i read it, i have not seen anything on their website relating to future plans dated this year.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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From the press release ....."This follows the exchange of an agreement for lease with Cineworld Group PLC"
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Any agreement for lease will be a binding obligation on both parties, subject to a number of conditions, the most important of which will concern timely completion of the cinema building. Given the number of conditions (49) in the planning consent, most of which impose requirements to be fulfilled before development starts, I don't expect to see cranes this summer, except perhaps on the site on the corner of Castle St and Woolcomber St, where they are planning to build a block of flats.
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Again, no one can deny this has been a long time coming and there is still a long way to go but this is a giant step forward.
The community & regeneration team that are working on this now, are well aware of how long it has taken and I am sure that they are just as frustrated as some Dover people are but they have worked hard and want to deliver this project as quick as possible, just as much as everyone else does.
This is an achievement and will lead to a better Dover and benefit the surrounding communities.
Well done to all involved.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Paul, the CPO process is primarily a planning tool that requires landowners/tenant to engage. The financial aspect is not dealt with. If the landowner/tenant refuses to agree a price then they take the risk of it being settled by a tribunal. Most come to a commercial agreement and not having to bear professional cost of tribunals.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Thanks for that Paul, that's got things straighter in my mind regarding the CPO.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Now back to the other matters in the DTIZ - Are there any barriers left to overcome for the Residential Units, Hotel and Cineworld to be built Paul?
When will the Weirdy Beardies (sorry, I meant Archeologists) be moving onto the site to carry out their assessments and how long have they been allocated? Or are we waiting for some sort of tender process to be completed for this to happen, in which case, what is the timetable?
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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If you'd rather answer these questions face to face Paul, you're more than welcome to pop down to my office in Castle Street, but it would be good for all members to see how things are progressing...
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Not a problem Paul. You'll see some activity for topographical work over next weeks/months. No archaeological activity expected unless something found. The site was no doubt explored at time of MFI construction considering its age.
We would expect to be on site by the autumn for construction. I think I've answered your queries.
Give my best wishes to David.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Will do Paul :-) Thanks for your input...
Jan Higgins
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Thank you for the reply Paul W
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I still have a couple of queries but I doubt you would feel free to answer them so there is no point in asking.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Try and I'll see if I don't have to breach any legal/confidential matters.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Ok Paul here goes.
How can plans be passed when the land ownership is not sorted and when are we likely to see building work on Cineworld start which is the question so many are asking.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Jan, anybody can ask for planning approvals on other people's property providing they inform the owner that they are undertaking that activity.
Cineworld is part of the CPO scheme that was recently agreed. It's start will be part of a schedule when ownership issues of the CPO have been achieved. Given that is a straight forward site it should be early in the scheme development. Difficult to give timescales and I would be foolish to do so.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Thank you Paul W, so until the CPO is sorted nothing can start regarding Cineworld which is a shame, some of my family will not be happy with that news.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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they can always go the silver screen jan - for 3 weeks anyway.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Jan. the properties concerned can settle at anytime and accelerate progress. We're all hopeful but what you now have is the certainty that progress will move on , given the CPO is accepted should it be necessary to apply it.
Happy news is that DDC own 95% of site including housing & hotel sites.
An amendment to the hotel scheme has been validated for planning consultation, primarily to change the access to the hotel bringing the foyer/entrance into the site opposite the cinema complex & dealing with room capacity. This stands outside the CPO scheme.
More there than you asked, last piece hot off the press.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Again than you Paul, so in theory once the hotel goes through planning building could start at once that is good news.
Howard, they do not like Silver Screen, they prefer the bigger cinemas
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Correct Jan, I much prefer to hover over your caveat 'in theory.' Someone is spending money to achieve the permission. I'm sure they are not doing it to drain their bank accounts, planning applications of this type are not cheap.