PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
THESE ARE THE AMBITIOUS DOVER PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY 2037
as reported online by Dover Express today
http://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/cable-car-lido-land-bridge-1031115howard mcsweeney1 likes this
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
An entertaining read and the writer(s) will be aware that they will be well clear in 2037 if not much of it happens. Footbridge, cable car and funicular lift have been talked about for more years than I can remember. Some of it may well happen but the idea of people visiting our "World class waterfront" after the Western docks development seems highly unlikely.
Guest 2210- Registered: 16 Aug 2017
- Posts: 53
I can't believe I just wasted 2 mins of this. Cable car is a joke. And why get it all done by 2037? What's the rush?
Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,820
What next.Electric cars,Hover shoes,Digital watches?
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,560
Even on here the cable car thing goes back nearly 10 years.
https://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/cable-car-for-dover
Would like to see bridges across the A20 to the sea front. From the sports centre to Douro Place and between the car parks by the underpass would do me. But will happen? Probably not.
Could do with keeping the streets clean and having properly surfaced roads and pavements for a start.
Andy B- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,820
Never mind cable cars they need to get the bogs sorted out.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
All monies would come from developers, nothing from any of our councils.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,163
The excellent Jonathan Meades puts it much better than I ever could:-
For many years, the nomenklatura of the regeneration racket have had a ball riding the most extravagantly appointed of gravy trains. They have enthusiastically massacred language: “Incentivising initiatives, intiativising incentives.” They have greedily swallowed their own PR about big-thought canopies. They are courageously willing to coalface Armageddon decisions about what font to use on the cover of “Triggering Endeavour Drivers”. They have demonstrated a touching faith in shopping and in “piazzas” lined by chain cafés whose punters risk frostbite.
They believe in “culture” – which can, and does, mean just about anything: creative hubs, iconic icons, lifestyle paradigms.
Successive governments which claim to have been unencumbered by an ideological taste for dirigism have poured vast sums into municipal and regional vanity projects whose attention-seeking flash has been in inverse proportion to their capacity to...to what? What are they for? Do these arched bridges and vibrantly diverse handshake sheds have anything that might be classed as a purpose? If they do, it is not vouchsafed.
The Catalan architect Ricardo Bofill said recently: “I fundamentally believe that changing the use of obsolete places within the city is one of the main activities architects should involve themselves with.” For an architect to pronounce thus is close to apostasy. But anyone who is not an architect or in the construction industry or a supplier of witless bling will simply nod in agreement. Of course this is what should be happening. Instead of gestural engineering – landmark ahoy! – and profligate new theatres, regeneration should be achieved by countless small scale interventions. And this is where the Tories should focus their energies.
PatrickS likes this
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PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
Well put Capt'n.
On a local level one may now begin to understand just why our local councillors were so opposed to the extension/alterations to the Waterloo Crescent Conservation Area.
Come to think of it - what did happen to that DDC consultation process that ended in March 2017 ?
Do I see a profusion of long grass surrounding this Appraisal?
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
Regeneration is about hearts and minds more than bricks and mortar; if we fail to inspire locals and provide them with the right tools and skills to not only take advantage of opportunities, but also to make their own, then no matter how many fancy toys and buildings we create the town will never improve; because a town is its people more than anything else.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,163
Things are looking up. See cabinet tomorrow
8.Dover Town Centre
To consider the report of the Chief Executive (to follow).
http://moderngov.dover.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=121&MId=2709
Best bit is Hoardings –
Hoardings erected around the St James site provided a
useful indicator of what can be achieved. 
That's the way forward. A bloody great 100ft high hoarding all around Dover with a trompe-l'oeil painting of happy healthy Dovorians admiring the emperor's new clothes whilst keeping the economy going by selling each other on-line cappuccinos in a refurbished High Street before engaging in a bit of cafe society and catching a film. All arranged with more partners than [U]most[/U] Dovorians have fingers! I can't see how any of this can go wrong.
Off to see how my breeding pair of unicorns are getting on.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,259
They are green though Captain
Arte et Marte
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Re post 11 what an interesting read.A lot of promises but no talk of travel connections to St James area from Old Dover town.Unless they provide a better bus service a large number of people will not be visiting that end of Town.On another note I see Stagecoach were questioned by scrutiny i had made enquiries as to whether a question could be put to Full Council or indeed could someone call bus travel to come before Scrutiny.It would have been nice to have been kept informed.Im supposed to be the bus user rep??
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Indeed Sue, I would have expected your Nigel or even that awful Haddock cove to have made a case for a bus link to St James, I seem to remember Mr Finnis mumbling about a direct route via Canon Street if DDC were compliant.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Indeed Howard.If they allowed buses back into CannonStreet Biggin Street that area would become more lively.,as it once was.Yes Captain is right never seen so many bodies involved.Surprising not much info from DTC not a squeak from Councillors .I have been following the rally call it what you like by some Councillors .I still think Marks should have kept retail.Do cruise ship visitors want food !!.We needed good quality shops to encourage visitors .
Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
- Posts: 399
This town is not being run for its people and its the people of Dover who ARE this town. You ignore and step over the people there this town will suffer (as it has) and towns people will suffer the most. Maybe some honest people who want to work with the people of this town not push them around step on them might make a difference. This town has been ripped apart and who is responsible for that.
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,163
Amberleaf50 wrote:This town has been ripped apart and who is responsible for that.
I don't believe a certain Mr Hitler helped.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#17, but he helped along with his cronies.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,163
Brian Dixon wrote:#17, but he helped along with his cronies.
What cronies? As we all know it was only a few Nazis we were at war with, not a whole country, and most ordinary Germans knew nothing about the strange smoke coming from the chimneys at the camp at the bottom of the garden or where that nice Mr Cohen and his family had gone.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
as I said cronies. Himmler, goring etc.