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    Quite so Peter. Any system is doomed to failure when those who think themselves destined to lead do down the their own. engage with those that have their own separate agenda, and perhaps most of all;attention span verses sloganising.

    Anyway, back to the thread...

    FactCheck: are nine out of 10 working families better off?

    "The verdict

    Mr Osborne is probably right about the nine out of ten, although by choosing to frame the debate in terms of working households alone he has made it difficult for independent assessors to FactCheck him.
    Clearly, the government is taking from benefits claimants and giving to working families.
    As things stand, we don't know which working families who will do best, but the small amount of information the Treasury has given us shows a pattern of the wealthier households getting the biggest giveaway.
    We also asked the government, since they want to focus on working households, how workers have fared overall from all the measures introduced since the coalition came to power. There's been no reply yet but we will update if we can."
    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-are-nine-out-of-10-working-families-better-off/13168#more-13168

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