Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
#1
I had to go to Victoria hospital in Deal today for a six week check up on my new hip. Every thing went well and I don't have to go back. It is a lovely, spotless little hospital and no car park charges.
My friend took me over in his car and we had a nice three hours walking around the town. We had breakfast in the cafe at the end of the pier, very clean and good quick service although a little pricey.
After a walk around to let the breakfast settle we had a drink in the beer garden of a pub on the seafront (my friend had a soft drink) sat among some of the most colouful hanging baskets and planters that I have ever seen. We then went down the main street and had another drink in the New Inn and sat outside at the pavement tables watching the world go by. I didn't see any boarded up shops (although I suppose there are some)
The point of my post is if Deal can do it why can't Dover.?.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
They have an active Chamber of Trade Alec. - like Dover used to have until the 24th. of March.
I don't think they (Dover Chamber of Commerce) can ever get back what they had on November the 24th. 2009. All because of the cavalier attitude of one man.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
Roger, You can not blame the Dover Chamber of Commerce for the boarded up shops,what they done to you was not right,but please do not blame them for all what is happing to Dover.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#4
Very good story there Alec and I hope our MP will see it, in fact we know he does look in. The point being that we here in Dover are very unlikely somehow to get the large general hospital, or large "proper" hospital, often talked of... so the medical situation you describe there in Deal would be very welcomed by us here in Dover. Trekking long distances for the smallest medical complaint is very difficult and especially when you havent got a car and you arent so young anymore.
In an ideal world sure, we would like the huge general variety but its a tall order.
Sounds like a ncie day out in Deal there too, makes me want to pay a visit. Quite like it there.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#5
i doubt that the victoria hospital will survive in the long term.
the hospital is spotless and welcoming as alec said, but very little seems to go on there.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#6
Yes it is avery good day out over there mywife and myself do go there about 2or 3 times aweek ,I just hope we do not see the fishing boats go off the front.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#7
I think Deal will always look more atractive than Dover purely because of it's layout. The shopping area and sea front are a lot smaller and there is not the same volume of traffic passing through.
Dover shopping area is from the Market Square right up to Cherry Tree, if it could be condensed to Charlton Centre area there might not be so many boarded up shops and the whole town would look better. It might also help if there was a concerted effort, by owners, to tidy up a lot of the old buildings with a coat of paint.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#8
Jan that has been said many times over the years by making the Dover shoping area smaller would make it better.Anyway I must clean the car now because(Yes)we are off to Deal.
#9
Paul
Why do you keep hammering on about a "large General hospital" - how many times do I have to correct you. It is so patently a political stance you have here.
Deal is an exceptional hospital and we should have no less but it has NEVER been suggested that Dover has a General Hospital by anyone. What Dover deserves is what Charlie and Reg have backed which is a recovery and emergency hospital to complement Deal and Aylesham and to prevent the constant traffic to Ashford and other GENERAL Hospitals. No Brainer.and able to grow if the need arises.
#10
Dover already has the location, the location has the buildings. All that is needed is a decision and some action. Connaught Barracks is ready and waiting, and has been now for some years. Why can't we get on with it?
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#11
No nothing political Big Dave but I admit to being a little befuddled with the message. Look at Charlie's correspondence and he regularly preaches "proper" hospital. Thats why I mentioned "proper" above on Post 4. To most people, myself included, the term "proper" indicates the full monty...does it not? The message is confused.
If Charlie moderated into a community hospital, and PaulW wants a community hospital, Labour guys like Gordon want a community hospital...there may be something there approaching universal agreement.
However I suspect my humble logic may be too simplistic.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#12
PaulB - Chalrie has been quite clear that he is not talking about a full blown district general hospital, that would be too much to hope for.
The public do not necessarily understand the distinction between 'district general hospital' and a 'community hospital' they would understand a 'proper' hospital while also being realistic enough to also understand that it does not mean everything can be treated or dealt with there.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
Jan is quite right, a report commission by DDC in the 80's said just that and it proposed that a part of Pencester gardens be developed to provide a 'centre of shopping' in Dover. That was a non-starter even without the huge public outcry against the idea.
Dover is disadvantaged by that long shopping street to which you refer and no real 'centre' plus the demographics, geography and the way Canterbury sucks in the decent stores. The probem is that combination of factors, not just one or two of them. Deal has slightly better demographics and a real more focussed centre thanks to which it has overcome its geographic problems.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#14
Howard,
I have to disagree with your comment, Victoria Hospital will survive, I don't know when you visited it but it is a very busy hospital and used for many different aspects. Unfortunately my wife and I spend too much time there and the nurses know us by our first names. The minor injuries is well used and is a relief for Doctors Surgeries and offers internet diagnoses from consultants from far off hospitals, saving my uncles life when he had a stroke. The usual blood, x-ray, scans, eye clinic, stroke clinic, diabetes, hearing and still more are all busy along with the wards for bringing our sick and elderly back to be nearer their families. Around the back are buildings dealing with children and even an emergency dentist I believe. It is anything but quiet and definitely well used.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#15
Please tell me why you all keep on about the Hospital,when we all know it is going to be build in the Car park next to the old Hospital,I have said it on the friont page if you have things to say about then come with me to the meeting on the 28Sep2010 and have your say it is at the County Cricket Ground at 1800hrs to 20300hrs I am a member a member of the NHS foundation trust but this is their Annual Public meeting,if you would like to go and have your say just email with name etc and then you will booked in email is
foundationtrust@ekht.nhs.ukhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#16
that is right, work is due to commence in 2012 on the buckland site, unless of course the government wields the axe over any new build schemes.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#17
gary
just spotted your post, i have been there 3 times, each time the car park was half empty and i saw very few other patients around.
i hope i am wrong and that it survives as it is very pleasant there.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#18
Just to let you know to the old Hospital site already sold for housing which will help build the new one,this has been done before over the UK
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#19
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Barry, did I get something right at last.
I do not care what we call the hospital, district, community or proper, so long as I do not have to trek out of Dover, using public transport, for a ten minute appointment .
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#20
Here's a scenario to consider - late at night you have a traffic accident on Frith Road resulting in a broken leg, within 10 minutes you are in Buckland hospital in the care of a doctor, assessed, x-rayed, stabilised, put on a ward, then operation carried out next day, and all post operative care and subsequent physiotherapy carried out in the same hospital for the next 3 months.
Not a fantasy, happened to me in 1968.