Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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6 October 2010
12:4273908Peter Whittlesea of the BBC will be in the Market Square this afternoon during the live broadcast of DC's speech. He is looking for people to interview as part of the BBC's coverage of the event. If you have something to say, get ye down to the Market Square!
He is particularly interested in talking to pensioners and people who have recently lost their jobs.
PG.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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6 October 2010
13:4873917Barry and Keith might turn up.

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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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6 October 2010
14:1373919Not me I am afraid - working, but I do have the conference on in the background and will listen to the speech.
6 October 2010
14:2273920If he walks a little further down the street I suspect that he might find a hostelry full of not only pensioners but those who have never had jobs.

Brian Dixon
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6 October 2010
15:3273928bob,it depends which pub your on about,theres 3 within spitting distance.

Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
16:2873935I can't turn up because I'm working too. However, as he is interested in people who have reently lost their jobs, may-be a trip to the job-centre? It's in Maison Dieu Road opposite the Health centre.
I do hear that many more people will be losing their jobs owing to spending cuts.
My theory is as follows: even when people laid redundant, say civil servants with some experience in office work, get new employment, the work which they take is no longer available to those people who were already unemployed, or to new school-leavers, so at the end of the day, spending cuts leading to unemployment do increase the number of unemployed people.
Sometimes one gets the contrary view, that all the redundant need to do is to go and find another job!
It's not that easy!
As for me, if they would decide to plant more orchards in our Garden of England, and employ local, yes LOCAL people, I'd turn up.
However, I think that those in the trade consider local people inadequate, and already look for workers elsewhere without even asking the locals. I am pretty siure of this, as far as agriculture is concerned and manual labour in that sector, as I have made some interesting research to prove it!
Brian Dixon
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6 October 2010
16:4773937didnt know that the health center had moved 200 yards nearer to morrisons.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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6 October 2010
16:5673938Alexander, when you say 'they' should start planting orchards, to whom are you referring by 'they'? If it's the government or the council, then you will be whistling in the wind until you are put in a box. If you mean Us i.e. The man in the street, we can start doing it tomorrow. This is the basis of the Big Society.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
6 October 2010
17:5373944Here's the breakdown of the speech:-
Jan Higgins
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6 October 2010
18:4673947Just seen Howard and Jenny on the local news. Were you two the only ones watching the big screen, there were only a couple of people in the background shots.
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Keith Sansum1
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6 October 2010
18:5173949Im afraid I was busy in capel
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
18:5773950Dear Peter: I wrote: more orchards, as there are already many in Kent.
The man in the street, as you mention, could plant: more orchards, if he or she has enough money to buy land and small trees for planting, and to pay for someone to first prepare the land, and may-be for some people to come and dig holes and plant the trees, and has enough financial reserves to live off until the harvests are sufficient, say after five years.
Somewhat of an organisation, what!
Whether it be farmers, Gov., the Council, or a work-organisation specifically licenced by the State or the Council, it would have to be more than just the 'man in the street' who has little or no money and is looking for work and the means to enjoy life (may-be by working in the country-side, for example)
You know, Peter, I always think that to get more employment going in our Country, one needs an oversight of how economy actually functions!
Thanks anyway for your illumination. Mind, I am full of life and have no intention of going into the box!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 October 2010
18:5873951capel seems a strange name for a lady keith.
jan
his excellency the deputy mayor, lord hannent of castle street was also there.
we both gave fairly long interviews, they just televised one snippet of mine to fit in with the time they had on the programme.
i thought jenni came across well in her bit.
Guest 694- Registered: 22 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
19:0773954arrrgghhh and i missed my moment of fame..
i was out doing some bits and pieces for the shop opening and therefore missed it.. glad i came over ok.. i do appear a bit of a bimbo but i do have a pea sized brain really!!
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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6 October 2010
19:1773955Alexander,
I'm a member of a group planning to plant a community orchard locally with professional help, you'd be very welcome to join us.
I can't say any more on a public forum due to ongoing negotiations but we're hoping for some it will be a stepping stone to employment. My email's on my profile if you want to get in touch.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
20:0973960Thank you Ray, that is certainly great news! I'll contact you before long.
Hope you won't mind if I state here a little about my plans some months ago.
Intending to stand for a ward in Dover, I had drawn up a small presentation of intent, remembering rightly there were six proposals, it was all on one quarter of a page realy, quite straight forward.
One proposal was the establishment of a few community orchards for the ward's area (Western Heights and Elms Vale area), where, with some professional advice from local farmers, local people could participate in planting trees and looking after them, and also coltivate a few plots of land for vegetables. The idea being to learn while going along, see the results, and may-be one day be able to find employment - even occasionally or seasonally - on local farms.
Meanwhile I am working part-time self-emplyed as painter and decorator, but there isn't much going, as many people do not have financial means to get things painted, as so many rusty railings imply! Still, I've just purchased a computer and will soon get internet connected. Without any income, all this would be impossible, so I know how it is for people who are unemployed, it's very hard!
Once again, many thanks, and I wil contact you soon.
6 October 2010
20:1773963The boss and I drove to the PYO at Felderland Lane (Worth) on Sunday to gather our usual harvest of English apples to find that the place is closed until May !!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone know of a local PYO with a good range of apples?
Guest 694- Registered: 22 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
20:2173965I use local suppliers, as I have the Apple Collection up at Brogdale down the road from me..
Jan Higgins
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6 October 2010
20:3773970Many years ago we used to a PYO Barham, if I remember correctly it was near the village school and up a hill, they also had a farm shop. They might not be there now it was 20 plus years ago.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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6 October 2010
22:3173998A few months back I bought some apples in a super-market, and by later inspecting the very, very small writing on the label with my reading glasses, discovered that they had come all the way to Dover from Manchester, where they had been packed, but had been imported from France!
That meant: from France to Dover Eastern Docks, all the way North to Manchester, then packed and labelled, and then all the way back to Dover to bve sold!
I was thinking of carbon tyre prints and the cost of petrol, and also of the fact that half of England's orchards are in Kent.