howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Dave's fixed camera-stare is every bit as good as Gordon's broad grin.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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I hadn't seen it like that Tom and was absolutely convinced by his genuine connection with his audience. He feels our suffering and shares in it!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you lot can be so cruel towards dave, people say that everyone has suffered over the past year.
i disagree, this time last year i was forced to sit through dave's conference speech on the big screen in market square with others and was asked my opinion by the t.v. people.
not this year though, so my life has got better under dave.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Could it be that Dave has woken up to Britain's economic problems?
I was convinced he was living in a dream world, trying to solve the whole world's problems with our common prayer-book, I mean check book.
Which honour has now attracted us humble people in Britain to the attention of Dave? Will this mean more spending cuts, more redundancies?
Tom, Dave's fixed camera stare just about says everything, one could write tomes on it.
The opening prase: "Oh my God!"
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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What was interesting here was the vast area of empty seats in the hall as the PM spoke. Not like former years. People at the conference said there was no atmosphere..no general passion no rallying. Some Tory talking head on TV said it was the worst conference since 1847..I had to take his word for it!
Others like Paul McTernan, one time advisor to Tony Blair, said the days of the political conferences are over. What the politicians say is pre-released to the media anyway. During the conference itself nobody can say anything awkwardly out of step with central message..even the PM. The slightest thing out of synch is frowned at..and the slightest mention of anything out of step with the struggling public is castigated by a snarling media with full venomous gnashing and wailing. Take the credit card slip..for example.
This was released to the media beforehand as is the way now, having been through several tiers of Tory cronies at Downing St and beyond, but nobody spotted the waiting train wreck. Out of touch?..you tell me. Clearly not quite as good a spinning/media savvy organisation as Labour was at its peak.
But nevertheless Dave is top man at the moment and top of his game. No challengers anywhere for the supreme political spotlight.
Keith Sansum1
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paulb
on the issue of conferences, yes they are thing of the past.
I don't share your view on DC he's stumbling from policy to policy u turn after u turn, even his latest (released) speech had to have a u turn and changed at last minute.
the 2 major parties will need to reconnect with the public or we will see numbers of voters going down and down(figures on this already to low)
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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With the 17 months of Propaganda now being regarded as rubbish.
``We are all in this together``and ``previous government caused the global finance crisis``etc,etc.
Mr.Cameron starts another.
``Together we can beat this financial crisis``
How can he believe this when we all know we are not all in this together
He is obviously about to join his other Buffoon ministers,or thinks Joe Public to be Buffoons,deluded or brass necked.
Brian Dixon
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playing leap frog with a unicorn, reg.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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reg
i always beliecved DC would be able to go the full term.
now he appears to be out to destroy himself
bad enough the cobbled together govt falling apart
now we are seeing pro europe DC causing infighting within his own party.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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oh gawd Keith - your wishful thinking again, so lets get back to the real world.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Keef I think indeed there is some infighting but nothing to do with Cameron..I think he is a unifying force for the simple reasons that he is good media wise and there is no-one else...although he has indeed had to make several u-turns as Reg says.
As for the infighting...well today a bit of a serious row has broken out between Ken Clarke and Theresa May. Frankly Ken Clarke thought what she said about the now infamous cat was rubbish and was/is prepared to say so. Good ol' Ken always prepared to say what he thinks, very rare nowadays, and very much not on message. And I think what she said was indeed rubbish as was clear within one hour of her speech.
Her story was like those stories you read say much later in the Daily Mail..the facts get distorted to suit the agenda..one thinks of straight bananas. remember that one, the EU were going to insist all bananas be straightened..hmmmm
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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PaulB - don't pick just on the Mail for that, all papers distort and the Grauniad and Mirror are among the worse.
Interestingly it seems Theresa may was right all along now from released court documents. A strange world and how crazy some judges are.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the mail is the worst for distorting a story, the grauniad does not come close and doesn't involve itself in tittle tattle.
the spat between ken and theresa was basically about them both being unpopular amongst the rank and file blue supporters and the latter chose the conference as an arena to put the former down and gain cheap laughs.
the justice minister was correct in his comments although if he had further party ambitions he would not have made them.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Flashman`s credit card Gaff indicates his lack of understanding that Joe Publics sruggle with the effects of the`one sided`cuts.He does not have the remotest clue they will using their cards to pay the 14% energy price rise for lighting and heating.He is out of touch with many people being forced into deeper debt misery by the Coalition cutbacks and rising basic costs
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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exactly reg
so on this paulb im afraid i disagree with you.
cameron needs strong leadership, and hes so wishy washy these days, wit u turns and pro europe
and notr sorting out his cabinet who are so out of touch with reality
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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PaulB, surprisingly, the EU did introduce a ban on bananas some years ago, it was on German TV when I watched it, and the Germans strongly critisised the ban.
It did not allow the import of bananas that were too bent and too small, namely bananas corresponding to a certain type.
According to the EU, the bananas had to be less bent!
Bonkers, I know, but that's how it actually was!
The EU recently tried to ban the selling of eggs by the dozen and half-dozen. In fact, in Europe, they are sold in some countries in tens, even where old linguisitc forms of expression still exist with the words: a dozen eggs.
Of-course it sounds bananas, but then the EU commissars count with ten fingers an ten toes, which is why we are now all bankrupt.
So in that respect, it's probably pardonable!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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is DC for real?
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cameron`s ``Can Do together``? Podium Speech!!!
Cameron boasts to be the Champion of Business.
In his first year 20,000 businesses went out of business through the deepening spending cuts.
Plan `A` relied on the Private Sector taking up the Public Sector redundancies...........................Its not happening!
Spending Cuts too far too fast.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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reg,as dc keeps saying "we all in it together."
