howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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from the mail.
David Cameron has ruled out a referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union on the grounds that the UK had their say 36 years ago.
A senior aide to the Prime Minister enraged eurosceptics yesterday by claiming that the UK must remain a member of the EU because Brussels bureaucrats have done 'useful work' on climate change and global poverty.
And he ignored the fact that no one under the age of 53 has ever had the chance to state their views on Brussels in a public vote.
Critics last night dismissed the justification as 'ridiculous', 'patronising' and 'insulting'.
Laurence Mann, Mr Cameron's political private secretary, issued the controversial justification for ignoring public clamour for a refrendum in a leaked letter.
He wrote: 'We had a referendum on that issue in 1975, which produced a very clear result.
'There is also one argument, in particular, against holding such a referendum that we find irrefutably powerful, namely that most people in our country want to say neither 'yes' to everything from the EU, nor 'no' to everything.'
More than 10,000 voters have signed a petition on the Downing Street website demanding a referendum.
Mr Mann's provocative argument came in a letter to Anita Segar, a senior Conservative Party member in Mr Cameron's home county of Oxfordshire.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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If that is true, that is really treating the British public with total contempt.
When we voted in 1975, it was to remain in the Common Market - a trading union, we were never advised that this was really for a Federal Europe, so that should invalidate that 1975 vote.
Roger
Why are people surprised by this idoits way of thinking? this is the man that has back tracked on over 50% of the promises he offered to get voted in , fox hunting will be next .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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absolutely spot on roger it was the european economic community we voted for, not the subsequent european community or the current european union.
the arrogance of people like dave and others is unforgivable.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Silly season spin on a poorly worded letter. If I could find the text again I would post the link.
Im starting to really hate the tories and will never vote for them again this is one person who got fooled once by the toffs and this rent boy clegg i wont be ever again they are messing up this country , at least when labour were in common people had jobs and homes etc need i say more.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL Mel -did you ever????
You post as if we have some kind of armageddon... No, we just have a government trying to get to grips with a terrible economic legacy and being hindered by other formerly high spending wasteful governments in the EU and the USA. A little bit of perspective is needed, cuts (the rather modest so called cuts planned) are not really biting yet.
Barry ive put it in black and white there didnt i????? cuts not bitting yet hhhmmm i think i thats a lie people have lost jobs, students have lost all they have studied for, the nhs is hoping people die to the help cut the waiting lists, london is at hells doorstep and thier aint enough police to control it come on bazza wake up mate.
YES I MADE THE WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE BY VOTING FOR THE DRAG ACT WHICH IS THE CONLIBS AND I WONT BE EVER AGAIN.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You sound angry Melissa !!
Roger
No im perfectly happy Roger just like making my point known either nicely or by a verbal spanking.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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It's only bad news that sells and the media are having a field day. Mel, you are sounding like a teenager whose mum has tidied up her room without permission.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Peter please dont insult me ( i never tidy my room thats a man job ) im entitled to my opinions if you like them or not . DOWN WITH THE TORIES!!!!!!!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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We are all entitled to our opinions and an honest opinion can not be construed as an insult.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Fair play mr Garstin but saying im acting like a teenager i suppose was a compliment so thankyou . mwah xxxxxx
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Quite right Mel. Always look on the bright side of life, de dum de dum de dum de dum.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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mel
best not to mention things like "verbal spanking" john will take it the wrong way and will be round like a dog on heat.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL nice little double act going ion there for a while............
Tell us more about these spankings you like Mel..
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Not from members of the Conservative party, Barry, I'm sure!!!!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
