Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#1
The current craze amongst the ne'er do wells, junkies and drunks rolling up London Road from town of an evening is to smash bottle or glasses in the road and/or on the pavement.
Whilst the morning sweep by the SITA cleaners clears the pavements; the glass in the road is left for the unsuspecting motorists.
Am I the only one who is fed up with this low level anti-social behaviour?
Where are the police patrols? (tucked up in bed or nursing a cup of tea down the nick no doubt)
Where are the Anti-social Behaviour Unit officers?
It really is time that we the people reclaimed our streets and got the service we pay for from our police and council officials
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#2
you are rather behind the times ross.
check back on my comments on the anti social behaviour unit over the past year.
maybe, just to save you time, they have put it under another name, comunity safety unit.
i hope that it is not just another answering machine.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#3
Whatever it is called Howard - where are they? not out patrolling our fair streets that's for sure
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#4
Ross this might be of some round about help...I dont know if you are free but if you can make it to the Neighbourhood Forum meeting tonight...from 6pm at the Town Council offices....it might be useful. See the thread
NF: how safe are our streets?
you could at least have a chat with the police and the community safety unit and it might help. Im not going to this one myself but have been to quite a few and they are useful. At the very least you could draw some attention to the situiation.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
There has been much discussion in Jersey with the break up of schools about anti social behaviour.Its 'pandemic' to use a popular phrase at the moment, on the streets in the UK.
Although its easier to monitor and control in St Helier the main town in Jersey than in Dover what I have noticed as a recent arrival to the island is a very high profile police presence on the streets during the busy shopping hours and late night drinking hours.
A mobile police presence parked up in the market sq most Thurs,Fri and saturday evenings would not go amiss in Dover. similar to the old days when the MP's were parked up arresting drunken soldiers.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#6
is nothing sacred?
i thought that jersey was a refuge for the super rich and the discerning mature holiday maker.
the idea of drunken chavs rolling out of night clubs and regurgitating their nights brew on the streets of st helier does not bear thinking about.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#7
It definitely happens Howard, well it did many moons ago when I went there to work for Natwest.
We used to go to the Fox Nightclub I think it was, probably something completely different now, but nighhclubs are (almost) universal - even St. Helier.
Roger
#8
Say it ain't so................
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
- Posts: 635
#9
This sort of thing doesn't happen in France. Proper police. Proper presence. Not targets, paperwork or politically-correct namby-pambyness. And look where our wet approach has got us? Down the bloody swannee. Our beloved Blighty is spent and useless.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#10
Thanks Andrew.
More and more people who are able to, leave Britain now because they are so sad at how Britain has become over the last 12 years or so - O.K. it wasn't perfect before, but a damn sight better than it is now.
I met a couple I know yesterday and they are moving to Turkey on Monday, because society is better than it is here !
How sad is that for the perception of Britain ? - great for illegals, but not for locals (the indigenous people - what and whoever, they are).
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#11
you are right there roger,any where is better than here.its only going to get worse.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#12
No I dont accept that at all Brian...its still a good place to live. I think Roger's friends are unlikely to find Shangri-La in Turkey. I would like to see a survey of these people who flagwave going abroad as is often seen on TV. How many of them stick it out in Spain and so forth. I would suspect a great many return when the wide eyed bubble bursts.
The word indigenous is of concern now too...as its a word much bandied about by the BNP who lately have been trying to PR-ify their message. Recently oul Nick himself on the BBC used this word continuously by way of avoiding saying black. Loads of us are not indigenous to the UK but dont make the place worse?? or do we??
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
Turkey is not in the EU so a lot of the financial hardship that many face in Spain and France etc. doesn't apply Paul.
I'm mostly talking about illegals coming here, not contributing anything, but demanding everything.
I'm not talking about people from oversdeas who do contribute to our society, they are very welcome - and yes, you too Paul B !!
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
i always think of indigenous as people born and brought up here, irrespective of their colour.
let us not forget we have a black and asian population that is second or third generation.
#15
"Illegals coming here, not contributing anything, but demanding everything". Nice bit of bigotry there! It would seem Littlejohns brain-washing techniques are better than I thought..............
For sure there are some "illegals" (who are, incidentally, human beings as well) who rape the system. There are far more who don't "demand" anything, but ask for and are grateful for the opportunity to be safe from the threat of rape and torture for themselves and those members of their family they have managed to liberate with themselves - and worrying and dreaming about those they had to leave behind in volatile and dangerous places.
It is easier to believe in the evil, money-grabbing, criminalised, lying, manipulative stereotype because then we don't have to think about how we can help or how we might contribute to the hardship in other coutries that creates the need for peope to run away from them. Once we humanise the people who take the painful and agonising step of leaving their home and many of the people they care about we have to look with open eyes at what we are.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
#16
BERNE
Congratulations another great post!!
The type of comments you put on here at times Roger showsou in a bad light and im sure you don't mean it in the way its coming across.
I have posted on this before, this country is great, I wouldnt be anywhere else i love it!!!
But if we are going to talk of people who may abuse the system then we have many White English people doing just -that.
So its not all down to the SO CALLED illegals(some are classed as illegal yet have every right to be here.
I do wonder if we all (AND I DONT SUPPORT THIS AT ALL)
Support the view of England only for the White English person, then what would happen to the NHS, Railways etc etc.
We need to move away friom the Daily Mail headline seeking hysteria, and look more deeply at the issue.
Many people that have come to this country actually do work and pay taxes
so are they better than the Englishperson born here who has never wanted to work?
We do need to make sure just like that super posting from BERNE refers to
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#17
paulb,life is prefable anywhere apart from this double standard country.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
- Posts: 513
#18
Returning to the gist of this thread, I was in the underpass lunchtime and there were a policeman and and a policewoman chatting, two teenage cyclists weaved their way through the throng in front of the law and neither made any attempt to point out the error of the cyclists actions or stop their illegal cycling. They were a complete waste of space and their salaries.
So all I ask is the police to do the job for which they are paid and a qualifying period to be instigated before either benefits are paid or NHS services can be accessed and I will be a lot happier.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#19
cannot say fairer than that ken.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20
Bern
I do not consider myself a bigot or a racist.
I accept there are genuine cases of people fleeing terrorism and persecution - many thousands of people are doing this every day.
Genuine asylum seekers/refugees know are are to seek a safe haven in the closest country to their own, but that is never a consideration to most of them - "England, I want to go to England".
But and it is a big but, they don't all have to come to the U.K. (I know they doen't ALL come here).
Those waiting in Calais have travelled half-way across Europe to get to Britain, not anywhere else, because they perceive, or are told that our pavements are covered (metaphorically) in gold.
We simply cannot afford to keep paying out for people who shouldn't be here - that's not bigoted.
Roger