Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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27 October 2010
12:1776832#1
On a somewhat dismal but much milder day, a bit of colour to cheer up Biggin street. Quite busy in the new Brighthouse store this morning stocking up with goods. They don`t look far off opening. I wonder what other stores, if any, will feel any effects? I`ve never heard of them before.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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27 October 2010
12:2176834#2
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
12:2976836#3
It looks alot better then we had before and it must be good for the Town Centre.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
12:3676838#4
totally agree, i know people do not like the company involved, however their shops are visually attractive.
the one in folkestone seems to be doing well too.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
12:4276841#5
I think we will have to wait and see on that one Howard ,my feeling is they have done their homework and that they will do very well there and centre of the town to .
27 October 2010
15:2376876#6
Have you seen the interest rate that they are charging? Its almost 30%!! As they are aiming at the less well off in society with their no deposit instant credit scheme, I personally think that the morals behind this company are shocking. And yes, it looks nice, but this company only invests in stores in deprived areas where they will find their customer base, namely the poorest in society. If you think about it for a minute, and look beyond the facade, it really is not a good thing to have in the town. But its here to stay; no doubt they will make their money from fleecing the poor.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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27 October 2010
16:0476888#7
You are right Lesley .These kind of shops .Money shops ,and Pawn shops do nothing to lift a deprived area .It is very sad that some people will be taken in and not look at the interest rate .Dover does not need these kind of shops .What we need is more family run businesses .I was In Tunbridge Wells on Monday and yesterday over in Sandwich .Lovely individual shops .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
16:0576890#8
That is up to the public to use it or not time will tell,but it looks great,and if you went in with cash to buy would they turn you away I think not.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
16:0776893#9
quite true,a £600 washing mashine translates to £1200 over 3 years.just look at there website to see.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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27 October 2010
16:1276895#10
As mentioned when I started this thread, I hadn`t heard of this store before, and just viewed it as a new business/shop for Dover. It clearly doesn`t bode well for the town from the comment`s I`ve read above, so I`ve just deleted the picture I took this morning.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
16:1276896#11
susan
you cannot possibly compare tunbridge wells and sandwich with dover, the demographics are completely different.
seems to me that the choice is between brighthouse and 3 empty shops, i would choose the former.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
16:1476897#12
Sorry you have done that Colin the shop does look great and it is also helps by geting more of the public into the high st,where they can look or buy from other outlets.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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28 October 2010
07:2977001#13
This is a complex issue; we do want new shops, but with many people here not being amongst the most well-off, it will do well I guess, but those least able to afford to buy, will be fleeced.
The advert on the TV for the Money Shop (in the Market Square) shows an APR of 260%. I wonder what it is for this new Brighthouse store ?
It's like going back to the old "tally-man" days, of usury interest rates and the heavy mob.
Good quality shops in other Towns, will see that we have three of these types of shops (Albermarle and Bond, Pawn Brokers; The Money Shop and Brighterhomes) and see we are a low-income area and not open here.
A new Credit Union has recently started up in Dover for savers and borrowers; this is what should be promoted, not these.
But as Howard has said, it does brighten up the proverbial High Street, but then, by the time they've been in there, they won't have any money to spend elsewhere.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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28 October 2010
09:0877026#14
Roger
It comes back to, what do we want for Dover?
If we are happy for these fleecing shops to open then fine, but with it wll, like sue says just bring the area down, no good moanng about it later.
Or do we prefer a town full of shops/shoppers like other towns seem to manage.
We all recognise we are in hard times, but having served on the planning committee i'm well aware that they(officers) look for reason's wwhy they don't want something rather than why they do.
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Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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28 October 2010
09:1677030#15
Interestingly Keith, this new shop has yet to go before planning despite the work having been done and the opening prepared.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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28 October 2010
09:2277031#16
Chris
that's even more interesting.
Roger
Can we be kept informed when this application is to come before the planning committee thankyou
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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28 October 2010
09:2277032#17
Colin you shouldnt have deleted the picture, now some of us dont know what we're talking about ( nothing new there !lol)..but it helped paint the overall picture..
I would like to have seen it.
The thing is these shops are legal and perfectly entitled to open, but sadly they do congregate and fester in areas where they expect the recession to bite most, or where they know poverty is the byword. They make their living from the high interest rates charged, so the 'live now pay later' philosphy which once was so prevalent many years ago, seems to be coming back bigtime. Thats a sad indictment on the current state of society...and its only going to get worse.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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28 October 2010
09:2477033#18
Paulb
No one is saying its not legal(apart from they still may need planning approval)
what we are saying is, Is that what we want for the town centre?
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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28 October 2010
09:2977034#19
Yes I understand Keefy up to a point ermm I think, but if they fulfill all the legal requirements and all the Elth and Safety requirements and so on whats to stop them opening in a free market.
But Im not sure how the planning thing works...can the planning committee deny them an opening if they dont like the cut of their jib?? is that allowed? Can they take the sniffy moral high ground because of their method of trading and deny them an opening? I dont know on that one to tell you the truth.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 October 2010
14:5277062#20
It is classed as Rent-to-own I think - is this any different to the old day when for example you would rent your TV from Rediffusion or Radio Rentals for a cost that is a lot more than an overall purchase price, or car hire ?
Been nice knowing you :)
