Keith Sansum1
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#21
howard;
the concept is good
but like you say funding is being withdrawn
which is probably not helpful
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#22
Howard & Keith.
Funding is still available.
Relinquishing control and giving funds to voluntary groups, will save money and have better results.
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Keith Sansum1
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#23
garyc
i honestly do admire your determination
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#24
GaryC:

Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#25
Gary is totally correct.
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#26
Having stipulated a new internet contract, I'm back on the Web. This usually means more trouble, but then what would big society be without that?

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#27
it was an independent audit that concluded over 3 billion quid would be cut to the voluntary sector over the next 3 years.
the poor areas will be hardest hit as the "leafy suburbs" are more likely to be populated by people educated enough to know how to navigate through the red tape and get funding.
#28
And who do those middle class educated people often support? Indeed - the vulnerable and disadvantaged, most of whom do not live in leafy suburbs.
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#29
Leafy suburbs: are we talking here of Bognor Regis, Windsor Castle and Folkestone Road?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#30
yet again the better off gain at the expense of those who need it more, a recipe for social breakdown.
#31
#28.
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#32
Howard-then so be it-but you are jumping the gun. One thing we have to face in society is that we have to try and create jobs for those who want them(especially the young Gary) encourage the disabled and support the unwilling. The latter we hope will change. I for one do not have the stomach for stepping over beggars and dead bodies in the street. But I do have HOPE. There will always be exceptions but if we can maximise their conversion to being able to contribute then implementing Big Society is the way to achieve this.
The Money is out There! Check These out. (The Coastal Community Fund is brilliant)-but competition is hot!
http://www.kentcf.org.uk/apply/apply-for-a-loan
http://www.biglotteryfund.org.uk/prog_coastal_communities_helpnotes.pdf
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.bis.gov.uk/policies/economic-development/regional-growth-fund/summary-of-rgf-2nd-round-bids
Remember, this is only the beginning-thank goodness our MP realises this. Dover can work at this from all levels. It will take more than our coalition posturing outside a tractor factory for a return to a manufacturing base- they no longer have(or even want) the power to make it happen at their level. The people must decide. It's got nothing to do with left or right or anarchy-just common sense.
Never give up...
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#33
I am currently helping with bidding, for a very large amount of funding, part of which is to restore a steam locomotive, that is now owned by the East Kent Railway. This Avonside 060 called the St Dunston,was commissioned in 1928 and was in use at Snowdown Colliery, until it shut in 1986.
This project is massive and if successful, will transform our corner of Kent, with employment, youth participation and a visitor's attraction on a global scale.
There is much work to do but the biggest attraction to me, is the shear amount of community participation that it will take and receive, to bring this project to East Kent.
Anyone wishing to help or get involved, please contact me or John at
http://www.eastkentlightrailway.moonfruit.com/#/contact-us/4521987523"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Keith Sansum1
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#34
we all have to do our bit
but not overwork the already unpaid overworked volunteers
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#35
What are you talking about? The previous posts are talking about funding. And volunteers who work for charities play a very important part, but not the only part, in a Big Society culture.
Keith Sansum1
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#36
just go back to post 27 bern
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#37
I did, and I read on from that too.
Keith Sansum1
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#38
quite a big thread with varying views thats nice bern
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#39
Strangely enough, big society seems to be that what is written on the label:
The society of the rich getting richer. H ha

Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#40
People who think that the big society is just about volunteers or enriching the rich did not understand the label they read.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/with-cuts-like-these--its-as-if-the-government-doesnt-believe-in-its-own-policies-6417051.html
A bit old but worth reading. I met Phillip Blond when he came to Dover 18 months ago and I thought his ideas were sound. Perhaps we should ask him back?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson