Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#1
Just got in from a lengthy meeting from the Hell fire corner weekend.
Barton Path policed, taped off, plod on duty re-directing people.............can I ask whats going on please, hic......ociffer.........No move along please.
TOP SECRET stuff as always. Get the cctv back and cut out the crap.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
- Posts: 556
#2
No sign of anything untoward from where I'm sitting.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#3
Nor at the back of my place Phil, closed off at both ends but not in-between.
Over the last few years there has been a lot of serious incidents that we don't hear about.
CCTV DID cut it all out. but hey........cut the pounds, mount the crime.
When it affects me personally then watch out. I will insist on my full name on my cell door.
I can't be a nice guy all of my life. you gotta kick off before you reach 60.
Too late after that.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#4
So what do you want to stop out of the local authority budgets to get both the CCTV cameras back and the 3+ operatives required to monitor them 24/7?
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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#5
OOOOH Mr negativity tonight eh Ross.
The last CCTV that was along Barton path was filmed and the info collected once a week or as and when required.
Does that make it easier?
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#6
Probably
Not being negative, being realistic.
Our local authorities have seen their budgets slashed for 2012 and will have them slashed again in 2013 & 14, there is a need to prioritise what they spend what little they have or find responsible community organisations to take over activities. If you were to cost this out including servicing, tape replacement, collection maintenance and replacement and put together a business case to justify these then I am sure that one or more local bodies might well be prepared to work with you to champion your cause.
Being angry and flippant is fun, but does not actually make anything better or different.
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#7
I'm sorry to say this, yes I know times are hard, yes I know crime is on the up.
I'm the same as everyone else, I shout for my corner ( where I live ).
WE DON'T SHOUT WE DON'T GET.
If you want to lay down in a corner and meow that's fine. to be realistic that's fine.
BE unusual and get what is required, That's different.
Don't run with the pack, be an individual and fight your corner.
Being angry and flippant makes me feel as though i should be a politician. Your having a giggle.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#8
Ian as Secretary of LRCF I do an awful lot of fighting for our rather large corner of Dover and yes if you were to come to us with a viable proposal we would most certainly look at it and try to help you progress it with the relevant bodies. The reality is that networking and having quiet words actually achieves greater results in the long term.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#9
Ian,
"you gotta kick off before you reach 60. Too late after that."..........
It is never ever too late, you keep kicking
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#11
There's a lot of good kicking left in the over 60s Ian.
If Ross knows how to go about working (with) the system, it can be very useful.
Roger
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#12
Another mugging. and just found out someone got a good beating on Sunday night.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
#13
Not a safe area at the moment so stick to the main road if by chance you use the path.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#14
hard to believe, it looks so idyllic in daytime with the river and the wildfowl floating on it.
these incidents rarely seem to be reported nowadays.
i remember that incident with keiths son.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#15
I will have a chat with my contacts and see what we can do to try to improve safety along there
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
#16
We need a police plain clothes sting operation along there.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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#17
Good luck Ross, I moaned and negotiated for 25 yrs, full of promises and now I let everything go over my head.
To see the things I see from my back garden would make you think, I ignore everything now.
Not worth getting involved.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#18
people power does win ian.
no need for aggression or the police, just a show of community does the trick speaking from experience.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#19
ian,those promlses are called lip-service just to keep you happy.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#20
I had a very interesting conversation with the relevant bodies on Thursday and they are looking at how they can reinstate some CCTV coverage of Barton Path (they do have some available funding and share residents concerns particularly following recent incidents) - they did however ask that we all report incidents promptly either using 999 if it is an emergency or 101 if non/less urgent or if you have information about crime etc. so that the evidence is not lost.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
