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  getting back to barry's post, he is right that parts of pakistan are ungovernable.
  
  anyone of pakistani origin that lives here will tell you that, the mountains are full of tribesman that do not know of the existence of places like lahore and karachi.
  
  the border with afghanistan means nothing to people that live in that region, whether they be afghans or pakistanis.
  
  moving on to the matter of harbouring terrorists.
  our country is one of the worst offenders, our policy of not booting out terrorists to countries that have the death penalty, means that many head here.
  
  does anyone remember the bombings in egypt?
  our foreign office advised people not to travel there after the atrocity.
  the egyptian government countered with, "we have given a long list of terrorists that reside in your country, together with eveidence to show that they should face trial, they are still living in safety on your benefits system."

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