Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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What is the point in resurrecting all these old threads that are about the same sort of thing unless it is simply to stir.
Surely the MFI thread has covered the reasons it is or is not happening.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Guess you have nothing more to say on that then Vic
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Dead right Jan.
Ray, my understanding is that the current DTIZ plan (redone after ASDA pulled out) was started in 2002, by the then Labour administration and has received cross-party support all the way through. I don't know about the 1990s plan, but agree with you last sentence:
"Maximise the impact of core services such as planning, education, street cleansing and highways on the local economy - for example through town centre management schemes or local business partnerships".
If the Loyalty Scheme, Town Centre Management, Dover Business Support etc. had been better funded and supported, we would have a better Town.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Jan, Vic's post is why I dragged it up, there are plenty more out there.
Plenty of DDC people look in and post here, its our duty to let them know how we feel, they are paid by us to work for us, some seem to think they're doing us a favour.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Sorry Vic - I completely disagree with you.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Better funded and supported by who Roger?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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DDC, DTC, DHB - for starters, David.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Well thats amazing, I rant for days that DDC doesn't support the town and you call me negative.
Roger - YOU ARE DDC YOU'RE A COUNCILLOR
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just a councillor though david, not a cabinet member - roger can only lobby the hierarchy.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The constant blame of DHB puzzles me, other local Towns have prospered without their input, too easy to lay the blame at someone else's door.
Audere est facere.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Just a councillor Howard?
I have a DDC document from their website that lists Roger as sitting on the Planning Committee Membership that discusses DTIZ.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Really struggling to know what you want DDC to do David ?
They won't build a shopping centre themselves, they can't make businesses come to Dover. They can facilitate it which they are doing by owning most of the lant and granting planning permissions. Personally I don't expect a council to go beyond that....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Paul I'd like them to do one of two things:
a) As you say facilitate progress, albeit more effectively
b) Empty bins and keep out of the way.
For years its been the worst of both worlds.
See you one day next week.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
BORING repeats of repeats of repeats.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Jan, just don't read it then.
I hope you all have a nice weekend
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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martin
other towns don't have the problems presented by users of dover port, parking in dangerous places, using lay bys as toilets the pollution caused by the traffic from aycliffe through to the port.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Been through all this before Howard, the employment that having a major port in the town has brought for so long should have been capitalised on by the Town and DDC, it has not been, not the fault of DHB but successive councils of all colours, The town should have grown with the port, it did not, not their fault I would suggest.
Audere est facere.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I am a member of the Planning Committee David, but I don't decide all the applications, that's done by the whole committee. As I have said on another thread, I have voted for the major developments, so don't blame me for holding anything up.
You mentioned that DDC doesn't support the Town; I thought that DDC have reduced parking charges for Market days; there's been no charge for the market planning application and are working on sections 215s and many other things that will help move Dover forward.
DDC are helping as much as they can, although I'm sure that if a proper, professional Business Plan was presented to them (and DTC and perhaps DHB), there "may" be a chance that some money may be forthcoming; although, because of the many Government cuts to LAs, that may not be possible.
Roger
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not sure I follow your drift Martin - what should DDC or DTC have done to capitalise on having the Port here ?
Roger
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Not sure I follow your drift Martin - what should DDC or DTC have done to capitalise on having the Port here ?
quote #64
That gives an answer to all of the trouble, lack of imagination, it is not my fault, please to not criticise me, I have written pIan after plan. They ignored me. Because in a nutshell, they did not have a clue anyway. So what could we have expected, except what we have now.
Bob Goldfield succinctly, summed it up, in describing the Wasteland behind the Port that is the Town of Dover. A Wasteland it had to be to make the Port successful in its day.
Except that now, the Golden Goose has laid down on its back and died, because a clever little mole has burrowed underneath it. Thus gathering more riches in the tooing and throwing to the EU. However, this is not going into the DHB coffers.
Now Social Networking is at its height, and tries to call all these dunderheads, and self serving/seeking potbellied beings to accountablity.
However, for Dover it is now, all too late.
Enjoy the Sea Air, apart from the Pollution from the Ferries and the Army of Lorries that trundle along, defying you all.