Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It seems morally wrong for TV stations,advertisement executives,film crews etc and private abortion clinics to make money out of such a serious and deeply moving life changing decision.
Thank God my mother did not abort any of my brothers and sisters.
I stated that I was a Catholic not as an excuse for being anti abortion but because like being a member of any club you have to abide by the rules whether you like them or agree with them or not. Other individuals can make up their own mind and then live with that decision. I was not wanting to turn this into a religious 'bun fight' but merely stating my position so there could be no ambiguity.
I posted that photograph lest we forget exactly what we are talking about and whether the TV is the approriate meduim for advertising such services.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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marek,i was just making a point looking at it from all angels.i will keep an open mind on the advertising untill i see the ads.ive notised the ads for condoms over the week or so preaty grafic i thought.
Marek - you did the right thing. Too often abortion is presented as a "clean" option, one that will solve everything, and so often it does not, but with few other options presented realistically girls and women take the option on offer, often out of desperation and often under duress. That option destroys lives - not just that of the baby, but of the woman and of her family, in so many ways. But this is not an anti-abortion thread, but a thread that questions wheher or not abortion is a suitable subject for TV advertising. I do not believe it is, given that the agencies that promote abortion rarely if ever offer the other options in a realistic manner, rarely if ever offer other contacts for the women who might look at other options, and who make money from abortion. It is a commercial exercise, no more and no less, and as it results in dead babies and traumatised mothers it does not appear appropriate for TV ads.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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maybe you are right bern,but untill the ads appear we comment futher untill after the run.
What difference does it make what the ads look like if they are advertising inappropriately?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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you get a better picture on what they are offering rather than knocking it before they are aird.
I didn't think that what they were offering was in any doubt..........?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian
That's the point..I don't want to see these adverts run on TV regardless of how homogenised or stylish they may be.Full stop
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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marek,there are a few adverts on telly i dont want on there,for example the nspcc one and other money toting ones but what one can about it apart from complaning about it to the apropet people,then you are looked upon as a moaner.
The ads are not comparable. It isn't the beauty, fairness, or otherwise of how the ads are presented or their artistic merits, but what they advertise that is under discussion.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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if this is the case you might as well ban all advertising alltogether.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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on reflecktion this debate will undoubtly carry on for years to come with no real outcome.
One major outcome of discussion might be that people have the opportunity to share information and discuss what could otherwise be a taboo subject. And it is rather foolish to say ban advertising altogether because of one tastless and offensive ad campaign. In that case we should agree to advertise female circumcision clinics or brothels, or let paedophiles advertise. Disagreeing with an ad campaign doesn't mean advertising is bad, just that advertising that particular commodity is unwelcome.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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bern,we have to wait and see if it turns up and see how long it stays on air before its taken off air.if you follow what i mean.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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maggie
i think that you may be out of date about the man "sewing his seed" and disappearing.
the teen pregancies are just as likely as the female wanting to get pregnant then getting shot of the male.
i have absolutely no problem with advertising condoms, the pill or morning after pill, abortion should not be lumped in with these.
teens are notoriously lazy thinkers(i remember being one myself), they will comfort themselves with the knowledge
that they will always go to the very last option.
we all know what that last option is.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes one extra burden for the tax payer.
So that's what it all comes down to is it?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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is that how you see it bern.these teenagers need better education its either an abortion or foster care or giving the kid a council flat on benifits.
No, Brian, there are many other options, much kinder and much better for the babies, their Mothers, their families and for the tax payer. Because the abortion lobbyists have the attention (and that is partly because they are commercial and have money to spend on PR and filling brown envelopes for political lobbyists), you won't know about the hundreds of kind and caring people who would take in the youngster and care for her, and help her with looking after her baby, or help her with adoption or fostering, and who do it out of simple kindness and a desire to see fewer babies killed. There are many options, but tyey don't get the same airplay as the more lucrative ones. A sad indictment on out present society.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Bern as a man I do not feel overly qualified to express an opinion either way about abortion.
I do believe, however that it is a woman's right to choose and this choice should be based on her own ethical and moral standard - not mine or yours or your church's etc.
As a final thought, whilst it remains legal to provide this "service" the providers should be free to advertise.
(Maggie is right that other service providers should also be free to advertise)
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