Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#1
As far as I can discern, there's a plan to have a supermarket built at DTIZ, attract shoppers from far and wide, and use the proceeds to finance: 1) the disappearence of Burlington House (the cost of which would exceed by tens of times the construction of the supermarket); 2) the levelling of the multistory carpark and the clearing away of the rubble that would be lying there after it came down; 3) a Disney-land somewhere on Western Heights overlooking Western Docks; 4) a cable-car to the Castle: 5) a new berth at Western Docks; 6) maintenance of the pubplic toilets. The supermarket is supposed to create hundreds of jobs too. (The Trade Unions will explain that these people will also have to be paid from the proceeds).
Now, following a survey I have carried out on new jobs, most, if not all of Dover's supermarkets have many closed tills, the vast majority of which are always closed. This means they work at severe under capacity. Each of the existing supermarkets could in fact employ various cashiers at the empty tills if the need arose.
Even the idea of building 6000 new homes at Whitfield for settlers from .... wherever..... wouldn't drastically change the situation, as they'd all march to Tesco's 24/7.
Brian Dixon
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#2
and a partridge in a pear tree.with mickey mouse gaurding the grand shaft.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#3
WTF?
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
alexander
a few answers to your post.
the disneyland idea was an april fools joke from our friends at the dover express, the proposed cable car will be government funded and the new berth at the western docks(if it ever happens) will be financed by whoever purchases the port.
#5
I don't mind buying the port Howard. I've got to buy three bottles for a dinner on Saturday, one more won't hurt.
Maybe the 6000 settlers will arrive from outer space in craft lit by orange lights that were recently seen checking out the location.
Unmanned till positions Alexander; I suspect the supermarkets profile their workforce levels according to known factors, plus a bit of Queuing theory too maybe.
To explain further (ack Wiki):
Queueing theory is the mathematical study of waiting lines (or queues). The theory enables mathematical analysis of several related processes, including arriving at the (back of the) queue, waiting in the queue (essentially a storage process), and being served by the server(s) at the front of the queue. The theory permits the derivation and calculation of several performance measures including the average waiting time in the queue or the system, the expected number waiting or receiving service and the probability of encountering the system in certain states, such as empty, full, having an available server or having to wait a certain time to be served.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
rather an interesting last paragraph there sid.
what did it mean?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#7
just heard donald duck has become prime minister,dover harbour is being filled in and playpark for clreden and westbury is going in at western end of the harbour.st james area is being redeveloped as a lorry park along with the rest of the town.a new road between dover and calias is being implemented as soon as,4 lanes each way with a service area halfway.
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#8
Hello Howard. When I read that about the park somewhere on Western Heights, it was in March, so I find your reply there somewhat curious. But, Howard, you really have let the cat out of the sack, and I know now that it's good to write on this Forum, even if my post was a little provocative, because it can get interesting explanations, as yours. So! You state that the Port will be sold in order to build a berth. Well, Howard, that means that Democracy isn't worth a cent here in Dover and generally in Britain, if that were the case, as we all know, ALL know, that Dover's democratic expression has been and is overwhelmingly NO! to Port privatisation. You do surprise me somewhat today! Values of such fundamental importance as Democracy and the democratic will mean a lot to me, Howard, and if you have been following my threads, and replies elsewhere on threads, you will note that though I may be humerous sometimes, I nefver joke with principles of common importance!
Sid. Thank you for your scientific explanation, however, to have noted that there are many empty tills in Dover's supermarkets and made the connesction to a planned DTIZ supermarket is nothing I need be ashamed of!
#9
Sid:
I should be interested in proof of Alexander's statistics. My local supermarket is Somerfield, and usually the tills are busy. The same with Tesco. My understanding is that Morrison's is doing quite well, and apart from this I can only think of Aldi's and Netto's. I think Aldi only has 4 checkouts anyway.
As far as the cable car is concerned, this project renders me incandescent with fury. A true project which is going to cost £3'000'000 for the feasibility study alone when we have a town centre which is desperate for regeneration. I wish you hadn't got me started.....
#10
Diana, I suspect the statement is based on nothing more than observation, rather than scientific study. Most large retail organisations use Queuing Theory to profile their till manning levels to anticipated customer numbers; makes sense really. Call centre managers do the same thing, only their theory is called Erlang.
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#11
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
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#12
Alexander
In post #1 you say you've carried out a survey - could you please supply the results of this?
In your post #8 you state that we ALL say NO to port privatisation. Where do you get that information? I've spoken to people who are for privatisation of the port.
I believe you misread Howard's post (#4) to suit your means but that's for him to point out!
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#13
Diana! This time, you see, we agree that to poke a theme can get reactions. So now we know that you too do not agree with the cable-car project. Neither do I! So we agree on this one, and have already two democratically stated views to present on the Forum, yours and mine.
As to Aldi's, let me assure you that usually only one till is occupied, sometimes two, the others remaining empty. As for Somerfields, where you are the manager, I am sure that often I see empty tills, as at Icelands. I don't usually go to other supermarkets, but do believe it is the same case! However, any discerning shopper will personally be able to take note of my point concerning tills, which is another good thing that we have PaulB's permision to really use this Forum to get some points over and chat along too!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#14
Tony Jayms! Hello, thanks for reading and responding! This is what I wrote in post 8:
as we all know, ALL know, that Dover's democratic expression has been and is overwhelmingly NO! to Port privatisation
As you can see, I wrote: as we ALL know, and not at all as you stated: "we ALL say NO to port privatiasation"! And I went on to write, as you can see: "Dover's democratic expression has been and is overwhelmingly NO to Port privatisation!
So, Jayms! I did not write what you stated, but that the democratic expression of Dover is overwhelmingly NO!
I see that you work for an advertising firm, by the look on the symbol. May-be you should consider me as a person with an accute eye to advertising, and also to correct market advertising errors before they are printed! Still, a good try1 Keep it up!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#15
Paul aka Scotchie, well a good afternoon! Alright, it wasn't actually Disney Land, but some sort of theme park for costa rollers somewhere over Western Heights, it must have been in March this year when I read it in one of the local news-papers.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#16
Sory Tony Jayms, I forgot your first request. The results of my survey is that what I published on this thread at the opening post, that many supermarkets in Dover have empty tills, meaning that many tills are not manned, but closed.
Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
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Alexander
#13 Is Diana the manager of Somerfield?
Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
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#18
Alexander
Post #14 You read my post out of context.
Regarding your claim of being able to correct errors, perhaps you should consider reading your posts before hitting the Post Reply button. And get your facts right.
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Alexander
Post #16 Your first post does not reveal any findings of any survey, merely an opinion "yours".
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Oh! That's it, Diana isn't the manager, I've just reread her words, and in fact realise that she shops there. Well, may-be I'll do better next time.
Diana! I also sometimes go to Somerfield. I like shopping there. Do you prefer the Parkham cheddar there? I do, I think it's really great, and on special offer to!
Tony, I know I make the odd spelling mistake, as Diana also knows, we had a discussion on that yesterday, but didn't take it so seriously as you do! It's mainly because PaulB hasn't got a spell check here. I even invent the odd word without meaning to, importing it from Italian I think.
No, Tony, a survey is a survey, and I made a survey!
Also, I read your context very clearly, and you got it all wrong! You changed my words, and so I corrected the error you made, but never mind, I didn't get hysterical!
Been nice knowing you :)