Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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First visit is AidaCara on 28 March.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Apologies - Jeanette and Peter are right. The Aidacara is not due until 28 March. I was looking at an earlier schedule of cruise calls dated October 2010 that I have saved on my computer. DHB updated the list in January to reflect the latest situation. Itineraries can change regularly, of course. A lot of cruise lines are busy amending their itineraties that were due to call in Egypt, Tunisia, and Libya. I wonder why!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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kevin
the itinerary on the seafront was dated october 2010, must be the one you have, incidentally the libya ports are still on.
there are usually "diplomats" waiting for a lift home.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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I'd forgotten about the Foreign Office Johnnies needing a lift home! Given the current defence cuts, I'm surprised the Government haven't requisitioned P&O's old Pride of Dover to steam into Benghazi....
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The list is very useful and I will advise local businesses. The only thing that it doesn't say, is which are Port of Calls and which are Turnarounds - that would help a lot more.
Roger
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Perhaps someone from DHB could confirm which are the port of calls? I think this is one example where there needs to be much greater co-ordination between DHB, DDC and DTC to ensure that we show Dover at its best, particularly during the busy summer season.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There needs to be someone happy and able to co-ordinate cruise ships and visitors to the Town.
I know from conversations I have had with DHB, that they do do a lot as regards the cruise ships and have lots of tourism information on their web-site.
Roger
Brian Dixon
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i like the idea of a bratwusrt stall but as long there isnt a sour kraut serving them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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how did you get on with your political correctness course brian?
i heard that a masters degree was not on the cards.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Kevin, I think the port of calls are written in advance near the Prince of Wales Pier, if I remember rightly. I read a year ago in the Dover Express that greeters have been called in from other areas of Kent to greet the cruise ships on entering Dover.
These are volunteers, and their aim is to make the visitors feel wlecome.
I still think it is high time one of the Councils purchased the offended church opposite the Town Hall and repaired the roof. People visiting Dover must think God knows what of us, that we are heathens or something.
Now I know a great volley will come my way, but still, I suppose tourists coming here do wonder, when going in that direction.
Jan Higgins
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Seeing that only the walls are still standing I think that sadly the only thing for that redundant church is demolition.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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1. We are heathens. (speaking collectively).
2. The councils have no money with which to embark upon such investment strategies. (Except our money, that is).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jan, all the church needs is a new roof!
The walls are the most important part of a structure, and those particular walls are in 100% top condition. Cathedrals, churches and indeed houses regularly have their roofs changed: the old timbers are taken down and replaced with new ones.
The central roof timber of a building can actually last hundreds of years, and some were made from old ships in demolition. The side timbers of a roof can last fifty to a hundred years before needing changing.
I think you will find that the Councils in Dover, including DDC planning office, would not consent to the structure being demolished.
Incidentally, Jan, Henry VIII wanted to demolish Saint Mary, but the Dovorians prevented it.
As for the Priory in Effingham Crescent, a part of which was ripped down by the said monarch, some buildings remain, and they are stunning stone structures.
If a roof caught blaze, no-one would rip down these structures either.
I have been doing some more photography latlely, and will be in possession of my sisters camera from Sunday onwards for a while, and will be visiting the church opposite the Town Hall.
I have edited online some nice pictures of churches of Dover.
I also hoarded some collectables from a charity shop yesterday, but don't know where to dispaly them, so for now it all goes in cupboards. I just love collecting old items, and photographing characteristic old structures. Not everyone is the same, Jan! We have different passions.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard,got my masters with honors.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Alexander, this redundant church needs a lot more than a roof.
The beams look as if they have gone, the windows are all warped and broken, I very much doubt if much of the floor that is left is reusable. Remember this building had already been converted into much needed housing and was no longer a place of worship. It will be a very brave developer who takes on this burnt out building, I do not want to see it demolished but fear that is it's fate.
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You can pick up a copy of the Dover cruise ship schedule at the Dover Harbour Board Office on the seafront.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alternatively please read post 19.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jan, the beams are part of the roof that I mentioned, and are the elements of a roof that need periodical change, as written in my last post.
The windows of the building are quite intact, only that some of them have a degree of broken glass, which can be repaired by putting new glass in.
As for the latter part of your post, I know the hiistory of the building, that it was changed into luxury flats that never became a reality!
But all this does not change the relation of what I wrote on this thread to visitors coming to Dover and seeing a church with a burnt roof in the Town centre.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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DHB have updated the list of cruise calls this week. As at 9 March, the port is expecting 144 cruise ship calls between 28 March and 15 November. Dover is second only to Southampton in the UK cruise trade, which is a very respectable result given that prior to 1996 Dover only saw the occasional cruise ship. DHB have done a great job in developing this trade, but it does need the town to develop if we are to capitalise on this opportunity.
