Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Saudi Arabia warns it will use force if campaigners protest against female driving ban
Saudi Arabia's government has warned it will use force if campaigners take to the streets protest against the country's ban on women driving.
Saudi women's rights activists posted online photographs and video clips of themselves defying the ban this month after some members of the Shoura Council, an influential body that advises the government, called for an end to the prohibition.
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world where women are barred from driving, but debate about the ban, once confined to the private sphere and social media, is spreading to public forums too.
Keith Sansum1
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how crazy is that
how out of date on these issues is this country
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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SA, is only the Conservative ethos writ-large. Where kudos for the ruling-few is derived from the denigration of one section of society or another.
You can fool all of the people some of the time...
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Tom - your own prejudice is demonstrated here. This could not be further from any Conservative ethos central to which is freedom of the individual.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"Freedom of the individual" to make it up as s/he goes along?
"con·serv·a·tive
[kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conservativeIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Here is a rather sad tale of an individual soon to 'enjoy' much freedom...
"Your report (Dyke's panel breaches goodwill around FA future, Sport, 22 October) on the progress of Greg Dyke's football commission highlights its two problems: it has been attacked for the lack of ethnic diversity in its membership; and also for its concentration on the lack of homegrown players in the English game. A few hundred yards away from Dyke's office at Wembley stadium, Paul Lawrence, football coach for the past 20 years at Copland community school, has very different problems. He teaches in one of the most ethnically diverse schools in the country and has developed the talents of at least 20 homegrown players who have gone on to make a living out of the game, the latest and most notable among them being Raheem Sterling, the 18-year-old striker from the English national squad that has just qualified for next year's World Cup in Brazil.
Greg Dyke has four years in which to sort out his problems; Paul Lawrence, however, has only eight weeks. For unless Brent council and Copland school recognise their mistake and decide to reverse their decision, Paul, along with 31 other support staff at Copland, will be sacked at Christmas, part of a cost-cutting axing of staff aimed at making the school more financially attractive to an academy chain.
Until then, Paul, as the FA head's Wembley neighbour and drawing on his 20 years' knowledge and experience of producing homegrown players, would certainly be happy to provide some helpful advice in sorting out Greg's two little challenges. It's unclear as yet, though, where help is going to come from to sort out Paul's rather larger headache, if indeed it ever does.
Name and address supplied."
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/23/schools-own-goal-firing-coach
N.B.
There are links within this letter, accessible when viewed via the link above. Me 'talking' about soccer...whatever next?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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goes against all what dyke wants
one doesnt fit into the other
so all will remain same
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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some good things they do on law and order maybe
but on this no no no
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And no trade unions.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
John Buckley
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This comes as no surprise to me. You are right Reg, it is a different world, completely different in fact to anything that resembles civilization as we know it. They are still living in the dark ages as far as respecting their woman folk is concerned. I can only assume that they consider women to be beneath them as some form of low life and exist purely to be used in any manner they think fit. Perhaps they may not all be as bad as each other, but I`ve unfortunately experienced and seen at first hand several times how some of them mistreat their woman. I will never forget the screams and cries I heard from a number of women being beaten and raped by their husbands, presumably they were being taught a "lesson"? Sorry if it`s not very "PC" to say so and if it offends anybody, but personally I don`t very much like them a great deal, or their religion come to that. ( although it`s not really a religion is it, more a political ideology! ) Just a shame that we need them for weapons contracts etc.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a rather bizarre form of islam that the ruling family finance to keep themselves in power.
no women drivers though john!!
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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I knew that there would be an upside to this situation somewhere Howard!
( sorry girls, only joking!
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Knowing the Saudi regime there could be violence .........
Saudi women put their foot down to defy driving ban
A group of Saudi Arabian women plan to protest today against the world's only ban on female drivers.
Organisers are urging women across the country to take to the roads. The group, named the "26th October Women's Driving Campaign," called on the government to provide "a valid and legal justification" for maintaining the ban, and "not simply defer to social consensus", according to its website. More than 16,000 people signed an online petition in support.
Guest 1082- Registered: 16 Oct 2013
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As far as I'm aware the female driving ban is not in any statute book? Not that that matters of course...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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:they will need to be brave to break the "social consensus" in place, the ultra conservatives there will not give in easily.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Somewhere buried in the traffic department regulations is a clause saying that licenses will only be issued to men. That's all. So women may be prosecuted for driving without a license.
In practice, women drive widely in the desert areas. It's not uncommon to see a Bedouin girl driving a pick-up or a water bowser in the farming districts north of Riyadh. Off-road, it's allowed. My wife often used to hop into the driving seat of our 4x4 truck as soon as we were out of sight of tarmac. It's just in the cities and towns where it's an issue.
What triggered the original protest drive in October 1990 (which my wife witnessed, it started in a supermarket car park where we used to shop) was the influx, during the preamble to the first Gulf War of thousands of Kuwaiti women fleeing the invasion in their own cars, and American women driving US Army transports. The authorities turned a blind eye to the Kuwaitis so Saudi women got the hump.
I think this time they might do it. Many Saudi women, particularly in the affluent families, can drive perfectly well and already hold licenses from one or more other countries.
Car insurance has been compulsory in Saudi Arabia since 2008, but policies cover the car for any licensed driver. So it's important to let women have licenses, not just turn a blind eye, which is the traditional Saudi way.
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Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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HiD reckons women can't drive...... until he wants a lift somewhere or decides to imbibe. I frequently have to remind him that virtually every woman I know was taught to drive by a man.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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A women run-in to me in Morrison's car park
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