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    Good post Andrew. It is very rare that you could start a discussion on immigration (on here or anywhere) without someone calling you a racist; I guess that was purely because they didn't want it discussed in a rational way.

    Too many people also get offended on behalf of others (who actually are NOT offended) and that has always concerned me

    I don't know whether we have grown up since then, but we all have different views about immigration and immigrants, but that will depend to a certain degree, on those immigrants themselves - whether they are skilled; speak English, have a good work ethic, want to integrate - or whether they are illegals; come here just to milk the system and have no intention of learning English, or integrating into society.

    There's also another group, who have, through niaivety maybe, been brought into England illegally by people smugglers and then end up working 14 or more hours a day and are subject to all sorts of abuse.

    I put a joke on here because it made me laugh and I wanted to share it with others because I thought it might make them laugh too. I got castigated in the Press - national and local, on TV and radio as well as on here.

    When I analysed the joke (maybe I should have beforehand ?), it wasn't about immigration or racism at all, but about people's perception of the Governments policy on immigration - that immigrants get everything and the English get nothing: a view still held by many.




    Roger

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