Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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200 London family’s to be housed in Social housing on old military barracks in Canterbury.
Is their plans for similar in the Dover district?
Brian Dixon
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yes kieth,the ones from calias.

Captain Haddock
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Keith Bibby wrote:
Is their plans for similar in the Dover district?
Not as such, but Paul Carter has made a statement saying that move of almost 150 London families to Canterbury’s Howe Barracks could be “just the start” of an influx of people from the capital.
This is of course what I have been saying to people for the past six years!
(It really is getting boring getting castigated for my views which over a period of time become received wisdom...........)
Meanwhile I see the local rag was doing a poll to see if the old Buckland Hospital site 'should' be developed as housing or a 'dementia village' (though how one tells the difference in Dover I don't know).
Since it's up for auction, as was Howe Barracks, perhaps there's a third option?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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In the meantime ppl living in cramped quarters & homeless in Kent get pushed aside ,,Bet this lot are damn Syrians
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The vast majority of Syrians coming into the country are housed in Scotland and Northern England, the ones to be housed in Canterbury are all locals housed in hostels or B and B's in Redbridge.
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/redbridge_council_s_canterbury_plan_could_be_devastating_for_families_says_shelter_1_4553246Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Howe Barracks was my home posting for some time in the 1960s it is sad to see it closed the army had married homes there to .
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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200 local family’s cheated out of a home ,,not good
Guest 1735- Registered: 26 Apr 2016
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Vic Matcham wrote:Howe Barracks was my home posting for some time in the 1960s it is sad to see it closed the army had married homes there to .
Was home posting for me sad its been handed over to people that are jumping the queue Paul Carter should hang his greedy corrupt head in shame
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Nothing to do with Paul Carter, Canterbury City Council made the bid on behalf of their waiting list.
At least the barracks are not being demolished and will supply much needed homes.
Guest 1735- Registered: 26 Apr 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Nothing to do with Paul Carter, Canterbury City Council made the bid on behalf of their waiting list.
At least the barracks are not being demolished and will supply much needed homes.
He would have okayed it. Mr Macsweeney who would you like to see living in these homes people from London people that are living in cramped conditions the homeless or even better made into a village for PTSD sufferers or dementia sufferers
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I would like to see it handed back to the Army that is what it was build for ,to home troops and their familys.There is still a very big need for housing for the services.
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Captain Haddock
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You ain't seen nothing yet! Even last year a third of homeless families in temporary accommodation in London had been moved outside of their boroughs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34167296
When one can buy the entire Folkestone Road for the price of a modest family home in Tower Hamlets what do you think is going to happen?
Talking 'off the record' to someone extremely high up in Kent Policing last year he said that one of the things he was worried about was London 'issues' i.e. gang culture,knife crime, firearms and drugs - which already have moved into North Kent - especially in the Medway Towns - moving into 'our patch'.
It's starting ...............
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Medway towns didn't need any help they have had those problems for decades. On the subject of the Folkestone Rd 4 flats have been up for sale £.25,000 each for roughly a year, surprising that a London borough hasn't snapped them up and renovated them somewhat.
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The neighbours do not exactly endear anyone to buy property on Folkestone rd
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It was friends and relatives of the neighbours that made the flats unsuitable for human occupation ably assisted by a landlord that was quite happy to collect his rent from the public purse.
Stop press - Prices down to £.20, 000 walking distance of the high speed rail link and Poundland.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The arrangement appears to suit nobody as Londoners don't want to leave and Canterbury locals on the housing waiting list miss out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37196770Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Stanhope estate in Ashford was built as a 'London overspill' estate in the sixties, and almost from the beginning it got itself a terrible reputation for antisocial behaviour problems. I lived there for a while, and it was so bad that grown men were frightened to cross the middle of the estate for fear of being mugged or worse and would either walk around the periphery or get a taxi ! I can't honestly say that I ever had any problems while I lived there, but the local Ashfordians looked down on the Stanhope residents in general. It came as quite a shock to Ashford's system, what used to be a small market town 'invaded' by Londoners with a vastly different attitude to that of the locals. Could be quite interesting in Canterbury, but I won't be going to check it out...
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Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Stanhope estate is a completely different issue as housing was built especially built for the london overspill and there must be a lot more than 200 families there.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry it is not,

once they are here and living here the issue is the same.