Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#121
Mr Heart .
You might not know ,but the town council and parish councils each tell the D.D.C, what funding they need each year and the district council have to give it to them.There is talk of a capping but that is not in place yet.
But the amount of cash the district council gets each year from the KCC. is cut from the year before last year they had a cut of over £1million pounds.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#122
Also they cannot put up the council taxs because they are capped .So to keep the services we have they have to find ways of getting more cash in and one of the very few ways are putting a cost on car parking in there own car parks.Without doing that we would see the end of the free bus pass for the old and our services all round would have to be cut.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#123
And also they would need cash to keep the car parks open in the way of repairs.
I do not vote for any party but that does not matter any party in power at district would have to do the same as the one before because there is no way round it,each year district council costs go up but their funding come down
I think that there is a saving that could be made and that can only be done by us the public and that is aske to get rid of the town council at this time they are a very rich council with over £1 million back up in the bank and cost the tax payer over £600.000 per year and what for,
They have no real power ,or say in what happens the town clerk gets over £500 per week and all she does is upset the public They do have some very good working staff and been there along time but if the town council was closed down they could take up post at the district.And we do not need the amount of parish councils we have .But again this is my way of thinking and am I right or wrong,?
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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#124
I think you're spot on Vic our town council has repeatedly demonstrated it's incompetence over a long period.
Arte et Marte
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#125
Thank you sir for your support in this matter.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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#126
SIR don't call me SIR Matcham I work for a living!.
Just a little something to remind you of those army days, am enjoying your life story as well Vic keep it up
Arte et Marte
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#127
Sirs work to sir.
I have been saying that now for many years it is the way I am,to old now to change.
I am Glad you are reading my life story it has been a great life with one story leading into the next as you will read over the next two years,it will take you into the darkest of the mountains and hills of Scotland where I found my self as a whichdoctor of a tribe .To the great woods of Canada and the real red Indians .
But the D,D,C have it very hard at this time to make ends meet and keep the public happy as you know it not all about Dover other towns and parishs have their own agenda on top of this to.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#128
Vic Matcham wrote:Mr Heart .
You might not know ,but the town council and parish councils each tell the D.D.C, what funding they need each year and the district council have to give it to them.There is talk of a capping but that is not in place yet.
But the amount of cash the district council gets each year from the KCC. is cut from the year before last year they had a cut of over £1million pounds.
This isn't at all how it works - parish and town councils can currently set their precept at whatever level they want, they just have to justify the level to their residents who pay the bills. They tell DDC what that amount is and it is collected as part of the council tax demand which is administered by DDC, with money distributed to the various bodies as identified on your statements, including KCC, DDC and town or parish councils. There is a small level of grant that comes via DDC but this isn't usually significant compared to the precept.
Town and parish councils only have 6 duties that they have to perform, and only two of these relate to practical items - providing allotments if requested to do so and if practical, and taking on responsibility for closed church yards if asked to do so. Everything else they do is voluntary under powers they have.
DDC have been warning local councils for several years that this situation might end and they could be capped, so responsible councils have been taking this into consideration when setting their precept.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#129
I have just said that, read it again,this time read it right.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#130
From the Good Councillors Guide, the words of the National Training Strategy for Town and Parish Councils, not mine:
The precept is the local council's share of the council tax. The precept
demand goes to the billing authority (the district council or equivalent)
which collects the tax for the local council
It is NOT the case as you say that " the town council and parish councils each tell the D.D.C, what funding they need each year and the district council have to give it to them".
People get confused enough already about what different councils do without being given the wrong information.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#131
so you are a good cllr and I have been a bad one for over 15 years.
End.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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#132
I don't see the difference between the above two except having to justify it to the residents?
Arte et Marte
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#133
Surely it is nothing to do with being a good or bad councillor, quite simply to do with getting the facts right for the public.
Whether we understand those facts is another matter entirely.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#134
My spelling is not the best in the world so at times I get round it by using words that mean the same,
I have two Dictionary,s with me all the time but do not use them on each post.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#135
Providing some more facts,
Final Local Government Finance Report 2015 to 2016
Only 27 pages Jan, if you fancy a light read
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#136
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#137
Clear as mud, Ray.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#138
Back to the topic, the news today has had reports of the commemorations of the 70th anniversary of the bombing of Dresden, which happened several months after the shelling of Dover stopped.
The rebuilding that took place after the 90% destruction of the city looked fantastic.
After watching it my thoughts went back to the DTIZ site, what that area looked like before the war (from photos, I'm not that old), what it has looked like for the last 50 years and up to the present day, and what we can expect from DTIZ build if it ever happens - mainly adapted agricultural sheds with a 25 year intended lifespan, separated from the fantastic harbour and white cliffs by the worst urban dual carriageway in the country and a block of flats that wouldn't look out of place in 50s USSR.
Where did it all go wrong?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#139
when they [the germans] stopped shelling.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#140
The same thoughts went through my head, Ray.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
