Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#21
Im stating its the Town Council who would need to provide one the same as River ,Whitfield ,Wingham and Capel to name a few,Guston have won an award .The Play Stratergy can be found on the DDC web site .It was approved in 2012.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#22
so aycliffe along Folkestone road has to do with out a play park because of ddc regulations.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#23
I can hardly believe this I am about to defend DDC.
Brian Sue has told you it is up to DTC to provide the play area not DDC.
It would be more appropriate to lobby the Town Council to pull their proverbial finger out and get a new and hopefully better play area started. Sadly I think you will have a long wait as that particular body are better known for the crawling speed they seem to adopt when deciding anything unless they want it themselves, toilets versus new car and jabots immediately springs to mind.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#24
Brian I will speak to Officers tomorrow.Im speaking non political,however I have a of duty of care to all.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#25
this will turn into a tale of two councils and we know where that leads.
the district council closed the play areas at priory and maxton, now aycliffe.
sue is correct in that guston and capel parish councils provided their own but the only statutory obligation of the town council is the upkeep of allottments, so it is only if they feel like being nice that they will help on this one.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#26
jan,as far as I am concernd its ddc job to provide and maintain play areas and parks,they have also the resonsabilaty to maintain and keep these areas safe.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#27
It was as e all know the DDC job to replace both of them not the town council.
They go on to say there was not a site found at Folkestone rd again that was wrong there were sites but the £200.000 was not used in the way it should have been
I say no more about that all history now.
The one at Aycliffe again same old story they are using there is room to put it and should have gone back where the old one was.
The good one at Capel was funded and that was done by a lot of hard work by a part-time D.D.C. OFFICER.
I do not know how or where she got it from.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
#28
Look funding is not the issue as I understand it, it is finding the appropriate location that is safe for children & I don't mean equipment safety!!
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
#29
howard mcsweeney1 wrote: . . . but the only statutory obligation of the town council is the upkeep of allottments, so it is only if they feel like being nice that they will help on this one.
Not quite right Howard, local councils (i.e. parish and town) have six statutory duties, plus a general power of competence to do anything a normal person would do.
One of these duties is to consider the impact of their decisions on reducing crime and disorder in their area. So if it is likely that a play area will reduce anti-social behaviour from the targeted age group in that area then it should be considered a priority, but there needs to be evidence to back this up.
But as Paul says above, there are many factors to consider a play area, one of the main ones being that the area should be safe both in terms of the physical safety of the equipment available and the location being safe for unsupervised children, something we have been struggling with in Lydden for several years. DDC officers have provided us with a report on the safety of our available sites and continue to help in many other ways.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#30
surely nowhere is safe for unsupervised children, when i go past play areas the adults normally outnumber the children.
the age range of the youngsters clambering around and over the equipment would suggest that parents wouldn't let them out of the house on their own.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
#31
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
#32
Howard, have a good read of the document that Jan posted a link to above - LAPs, LEAPS and NEAPs.
Different requirements for different age ranges, the older they are the less likely they are to be supervised - just like I was from the age of 6 apart from my mates!
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
#33
Just add to Ray's comments about standards. If standards as laid down by the expert body -(not DDC)are not complied with the sites become uninsurable. This is a dilemma every public body has to face.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
#34
Too true Paul, it's not as easy as Vic's view that you start by getting a wish list from a company, that's the end of the process.
Plenty of info here from
Fields in Trust about standards and fundraising.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#35
What I have said has been done all over the UK in PARISHS and towns and I do know what I am talking about and the talk about a wish list is rubbish but I would not expect anything-more from yourself.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#36
From this weeks planning list on DDC's website.
15/00014 Change of use of land to play area,
installation of play equipment and
erection of associated fencing
Aycliffe Recreation Ground, off St
Davids Avenue, Aycliffe, CT17 9HJ
KB