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  I think what you are saying Barryw is what the right of the conservative party are now openly saying, but on top of this even more moderates are saying the same.
  
  Trouble now is, both those saying get out of the E U
  and those saying stay in the E U
  are critical of the mouse's leadership.
  
  I'm still very unsure as to why the mouse still entertains a finished lib dem party which is just waiting for its fate at the next general election.
  
  Sadly all this in fighting will result in weakening and already weak leader

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