Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#1
Tony Ben R I P
Tony Ben another politician of the left that understood the devastating effect of EU membership on working people
Jan Higgins
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#2
I had the greatest respect for Tony Benn. He fought hard to give up his hereditary peerage so he could stay in the House of Commons, he was a politician who stood by what he believed in and did not ditch his ideals to curry favour like so many.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
and also one of the most interesting to listen to whether you agreed with him or not.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#4
He will be missed in the house one of the best talkers they have had and one of the old kind of MPS THAT WE ONLY HAVE A FEW LEFT.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#5
I often wonder haw the country would be now if bens plan for north sea oil had been implemented
The money would have gone into mass infrastructure investment.
Instead Thatcher got in and spent it all on the dole for workers chucked on the scrapheap of monetarism. And the
E R M fiasco .
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#6
Lord protect us all from conviction politicians. For conviction read blinkered and not willing to change with the times.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
if there was a choice between conviction politicians or one of those who check to see which way the wind is blowing before doing anything i would go for the former.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#8
You restrict yourself in your choices, Howard. There are other types who conform to neither of the two.
Conviction politicians are in the main those who are persuaded towards a view and cling to that belief despite evidence that they are wrong. Check out the twitter feeds from most labour politicians and see how they copy and paste hashtag campaigns dictated from their central command bunker be it on food banks, evil tories, Gove's radical changes - everything!
Automatons all.
The liberals, along with labour, are intent on de-industrializing the UK even aiming for a ban on petrol and diesel engine cars by 2040.
Conviction politics.
A disaster.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#9
I admire Tony Benn for his commitment to democracy.
But like lots on the left he believed masses of employment legislation would improve things for private sector workers.
This never happens in reality, the costs just get past on to the customers and the employee.
One example of this is Private sector companys have just been given instructions to provide pension to there workers,
This has sparked mass layoffs of workers that where employed on the cards
One big electrical company in Canterbury have sacked all its workers and reemployed them by an employment agency making them all self employed workers.
These workers where getting £150 a day on the cards ,,now they get £120 a day from the parasite employment agency .
This is happening all over the county
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#11
Not exactly Bill Gates then?