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    Of course that article misrepresents those who are anti hdv, equally your stop hdv link misrepresents those who support the hdv, you said they said, is it any wonder people are getting pissed of with the corbyn left all they do is stamp their feet like petulant children, all the while the people who are effected get trod under foot, shouted over and ignored.

    I'm pleased to have had some wonderfully enlightening conversations with some 15 & 16 yr olds in recent weeks from Labour strongholds in north who are adamant that they will not be voting labour if corbyn is still in charge, apparently the were taught about socialism in school and didn't think much of the idea.
    They were also out of the loop when corbyn did his youth appeal and online mass media coverage and nobody likes yesterday's fad, the next wave of voters will not be so easily conned as this last lot.

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