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    I am not suggesting that parents, or indeed teachers, insinuate children not passing the 11+ are thick. Society does that very well, a microcosm of that can be found within this thread.

    Capt Haddock, whilst I have little appetite for a prolonged debate on this, your genetics argument sounds dangerously like phrenology to me. It also smacks of a social elite keeping the mob in their place.

    For clarity, calling it 'out' as in tennis and other sports (i.e. not credible, fail, out of bounds).

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