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  Neil
  Whilst I want this govt out , you need to have a credible alternative .
  
  Labour has in the main lost its passion as to why it was set up, and who it actual supports .
  
  When working class can bring themselves to vote Tory there has to be something wrong .
  
  Instead of Starmer expelling his own members purely for having an alternative view , and parachuting in candidates without any say of the local membership shows that labour isn't fit to govern .
  
  Labours old views that it is a broad church has gone
  It's spending more time infighting than taking on the govt .
  
  Before getting into working with other minority parties it needs to get its own act in order .
  
  .some years down the line (if that happens at all)
  Then maybe consider working with other minority parties.
  But that is also a problem area as the parties you mention are quite different and some couldn't be trusted , and you recall the lib Dems last time this was looked into preferred to put the Tories into govt and then even joined them!

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