howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
the whole issue is a right mess starting with the act itself open to interpretation.
dave then promises to repeal it but now backs down and offers a free vote sometime in the future.
it then gets even more confused with the changes applying to upland farmers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26753298Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#2
Funny how those opposed to the sport of hunting with dogs never campaign or march against the owners of dogs whose animals mutilate and kill children.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
odd thing to say philip, how can anyone campaign against something that is already illegal?
clair was at the commons earlier in the week with a group trying to stop the re-introduction of hunting with dogs.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#4
Before the hunting ban fewer than 2000 foxes were killed yearly by hunting.
At present some 80,000 foxes are killed each year by shooting and over 100,000 by being hit by a motor vehicle.
Perhaps foxey-woxey lovers might do better using their video cameras to harass speeding motorists rather than local hunts?
Personally were I to be reincarnated as Reynard I would much prefer taking my chances outrunning a pack of hounds rather than a bullet or a motor car.
Having seen the mange ridden and interbred foxes who have a den on my partner's allotment I suspect it would be in the interest of the fox population itself to have a hunt taking out the ill and the old as used to happen.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#5
That picture sums labour up pretty much. No policies to speak of so they resort to the usual proxy class war via dredging up the old hunting with dogs issue. If it's not that then it's the old, hopelessly insane, energy freeze canard.
I think most people have other major worries to be concerned about rural sports.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
two chestnuts in one there.
a) the people who are against hunting with dogs are also against dog fighting which is a predominately working class/underclass pastime.
b) sport is when all participants are willing.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#7
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:
b) sport is when all participants are willing.
Bloody well was not in my school!
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#8
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:b) sport is when all participants are willing.
We were taught at my school ( a grammar established by Queen Elizabeth, and that's not the current Liz) that the only true sports are when a quarry is pursued - hunting, shooting, fishing and courting, anything is else is games.
Can I borrow someone's tin hat?
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#9
Precisely.
That's why we refer to blood 'sports' and olympic 'games'.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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#10
Well, that’s another fun-filled family day out accounted for by the Tories as the Pry Mincer chases the urban snowflake vote. Vulpine recidivists and wannabe aristocrats draw a blank and kennell their hounds, while Charles James can safely break cover.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42594068'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
The PM is again totally out of touch with the Country and even the Commons. Only Tory MPs in rural constituencies under pressure from the landed gentry would have voted to bring it back leaving a free vote worthless.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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#12
Doesn't this show she is in touch and has acted accordingly?
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
If she had been in touch she would have known that 80% of the public were against hunting with dogs, yet she still put in her Manifesto and now has to do a strong and stable U-turn.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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#14
Reginald Barrington wrote:Doesn't this show she is in touch and has acted accordingly?
Good point...like appointing Toby Young into the quangoed position of OfSTUD.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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#15
Indeed, Howard. Equally, if she really was a believer in the "will of the people", she would get the Home Secretary to ensure that the Hunting Act is fully and properly enforced instead of the charade we currently have.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#16
this should have stopped long ago, politicians supporting this do not look good in the public eye
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#17
Bugger. Just got e-mail saying hunt with EKFH cancelled for Wed. Hope things have dried out by w/e.
Wednesday hunting sadly CANCELLED due to waterlogged ground
There will be a beach ride instead
Please contact XXXXXX XXXXXXX for details:
Please phone secretaries for information
on hunting on the weekend
(Personally I can think of few better ways to spend a morning than being out in the Kentish countryside watching following posh totty in tight jodphurs but there you go)
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#18
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#19
so is the chicken the new fox hound.
