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    #3111 haha. Yes, Deal High St. is one thing, but having me pop up halfway through your Sunday morning golf is another!

    #3112 Barry this returns me to my point of what we value. Our time in Afganistan has not been particularly 'efficient' and our troops are not as well equipped as other nations. All of the bureaucracy, and waste also exists in the MoD, I even know Pen pushers there myself! So then the answer must be, when we look to improving our national security, Privatisation!

    I know of course that this idea will insense you (as it does me). Each of the valid arguments used to defend defence could easily be adapted to defending health, after all (without getting too Maslovian) our safety and health are of little value without one and other.

    A soldier dies in action (a tragedy linked to warfare) and we look at numbers of troops, equipment and funding.

    A patient dies in a hospital (a tragedy linked to being ill) and we cry "this wouldn't happen in the hands of the private sector!"

    Like I say it is what you choose to value. I personally value both very much and using words such 'efficiency' really misses the point. War isn't measurable in terms of input and output and nor is making people well.

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