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    Good point Peter, I'd seriously like to hear a definition though as to what a living wage comprises.

    Rent/mortgage - if so what type of property?
    Car/petrol - see above.
    Food - see above
    Booze?
    Fags?
    SKY?
    Mobile phone?
    Cinema?
    Holidays?

    I know plenty of self employed that go without most of those to some degree, in a lot of cases paying staff more than they earn themselves. I'm sure you could name some too Peter.

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