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    BarryW.
    Hurray, at last we can agree.
    "The point is that no-one working should be on benefits"

    That's right. They should be paid a decent Living (not minimum) Wage.
    If the employer (business) cannot operate or sustain his business and pay this Living Wage then any government should supplement the employer, until such times as he can sustain his business and pay this Living Wage.

    Win Win all round.

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