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  People power does not need to be monolithic state enterprises as Peter has rightly pointed out there are alternative routes to the same goal. I am absolutely in favour of ordinary people having a real say in how their energy and water suppliers act etc. something they do not get from either state control or private enterprise.
  
  When organisations genuinely serve the people who own and control them then some sense of equity will creep into pricing policy etc.
  
  But on here it seems to be a case of avoiding constructive debate about real alternatives and much more about blindly supporting ones sacred cow no matter how obnoxious, offensive, immoral or fatuous that may be and god forbid that the entrenched factions could ever acknowledge that someone outside their mindset has a valid or even reasonable position.
  
  As Bern has pointed out without education and without the habit of freely thinking all we end up seeing is what the media and their political and industrial masters put in front of us.

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